Jan 9, 2024
Prepare yourself to delve into the beautiful dance of giving and
receiving - a balance, when maintained, that can have profound
impacts on both your work and personal life. We’ll explore the joy
of giving and the ripple effects it carries for both the giver and
recipient, as well as the importance of receiving recognition in
the business world. As we navigate this conversation, we'll also
challenge the constant need for validation and discuss how
rewarding achievements can foster healthier self-esteem. Join us as
we explore the complexities of acknowledging one's worth and the
importance of fair compensation. Essential listening for anyone who
struggles with receiving, this episode promises to enlighten and
inspire.
00:01 - Intro (Announcement)
It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level.
These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being
utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business
like a boss, a VEO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne
Ganguzza.
00:19 - Anne (Host)
Hey everyone, welcome to the VEO Boss podcast and the Boss
Superpower series. I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, along with my
amazing, awesome, most wonderful boss, co -host Lau Lapides. Hey,
Lau, hi, hi, Annie. Happy Saturday, yes, happy Saturday, Lau. You
know, Lau, it's a new year and I am full of promise and full of
motivation and inspiration and we've just come off the season of. I
like to call it the season of giving, because I love to give gifts
and I love to donate to my favorite charities. And you know what? I
also like to receive gifts, but we don't always talk about that. We
talk about giving, but what about receiving? And sometimes Lau
those gifts, they're not in a box. So let's talk about the gift of
receiving, shall we?
01:14 - Lau (Host)
It's so interesting to me. I love this topic and because there's so
many cultural differences of how we receive. There's gender
differences, there's age and generational differences and I don't
hear anyone really talking about how do we get something, receive
something, take something, and how do we behaviorally deal with
that. Yeah, like something is simple. I'll tell you what's in my
brain right now. When someone comes into my home or my studio, the
first thing I do and this was in my training was to offer them
something. I offer them a hot drink.
01:51 - Anne (Host)
I offer them a warm beverage.
01:52 - Lau (Host)
I offer them a warm beverage of their choice, right, and that is
definitely generational, but it's also cultural because that's the
background Eastern European background. We are gift givers. We give
a lot to others, right, and there's different schools of thought
business-wise as to how you receive that, and how I train my
clients is take it, take it. You don't have to drink it, you don't
have to want it, but take it because it's giving a message to the
person who's giving it to you that you are cordially receiving
something that they're offering to you.
02:29
That's part of their protocol and they're etiquette
right.
02:32 - Anne (Host)
Well, I'll tell you one thing that's always been hard for me to
receive and I think a lot of maybe women, maybe a lot of people
share. This is a compliment I'm just saying that is so difficult
for me, without downplaying it, and honestly, the best thing you
can do to receive that compliment is to receive it with gratitude
even if you don't feel it right.
02:55
I mean, how many times do people send a compliment your way and
you're like, oh no, it was nothing. Or, and especially, though,
when it comes to our businesses too though, isn't it funny. When it
comes to our businesses, I am more than happy to take a compliment
from a client. Do you know what I mean? If a client's like, oh my
God, great job, right, I'm very happy about that. Inside, I'm
bursting with pride and joy and hopefully that's every boss out
there when they get a compliment or good feedback from their
client, and I think that you must receive that. And if you receive
that, that really speaks volumes to professionalism, right and
courtesy, and understanding what it means to the other person when
they're giving you something such as a compliment doesn't have to
have monetary value, of course.
03:37
Well, like to have gifts of gold but in addition to that, gift of a
kind word is really something I think that is truly like giving of
the other person, and if you reject it, then that's a little
insulting and hurtful.
03:53 - Lau (Host)
I think you hit the nail on the head too when you said, especially
with women, how we're not always in the mood to receive that or
expecting that or even deserving of that. In our mindset, it's a
little bit of that imposter syndrome that comes in when someone
gives you that compliment and that moment of like oh, how do I take
that? Do I deserve that? Oftentimes we'll say, oh no, I just got
this dumb outfit.
04:19 - Anne (Host)
You know it was on sale. Anyway, you look terrific, you look great
and I throw it.
04:22 - Lau (Host)
This old thing, yeah, this old thing, it's been hanging in my
closet Doesn't mean but you look terrific, you look amazing. We'll
throw it right back at the other person, which they don't realize
oftentimes. That is a passive aggressive non accepting value,
because it's not just a compliment, it's showcasing your
value.
04:43 - Anne (Host)
It's almost like when you throw it back and it's not that you don't
mean it, but sometimes when you throw it back immediately, it's
almost like you don't accept what they're giving to you and you're
like, oh no, you look great. And so then it becomes that kind of a
battle of maybe, well, who's giving here and who's the gracious
receiver right?
05:00 - Intro (Announcement)
There's gracious giving and there's gracious receiving.
05:03 - Anne (Host)
And I truly believe that it needs to be within our boss superpowers
to be able to receive and something that's we're talking a little
more on maybe a loftier level in terms of nothing that has monetary
value, but definitely has value like a compliment right, an act of
kindness, that sort of thing. What about money Lau? I mean, how
hard is it sometimes for us to accept for a job Well done, I'm
happy to accept money, but thinking about, am I worth the money, am
I asking for enough money? And what if I get more money? And is
that hard for me to receive? Because, again, we have some of these
mental issues sometimes with accepting money and that really kind
of, I think, goes back to our value or our feelings of self
worth.
05:47 - Lau (Host)
Yes, yes, yes, yes. And you know what that money may be in money
form and it may go towards an actual gift right. And I recently
received. One of the gifts in the mail I literally just got within
a week ago was from a client of mine who sent me one of those
beautiful boxes for a holiday for. Thanksgiving that was chock full
of coffee, beans and caramel and just everything under the
sun.
06:09 - Anne (Host)
And.
06:09 - Lau (Host)
I was so surprised when I opened it up. I was so amazed that
someone was thinking of me in that way, but how I reacted to it
now, on retrospect, when I look at that, what did I do immediately?
I thanked her, I loved it, and then I immediately started to give
it away. I immediately started to offering to my clients coming
through that.
06:29 - Anne (Host)
I see to my family.
06:30 - Lau (Host)
Oh, here, let me share, let me, here, let me give this to you. Let
me share this to you. And I oftentimes wonder is a gift really
meant for you when it's given to you, or is it meant for you to do
what you see fit with that gift? So, if you get the monetary cash
and you want to give it to charity, how would that person, how
would the giver actually feel about that if they really wanted to
give it to you? That's an interesting question.
06:56 - Anne (Host)
Yeah, that is an interesting question. Well, you know what I think?
That if a gift is given, it is because or at least for me, the
person that is giving it wants to extend a gift for the other
person to experience joy, I would think, and appreciation, and I
feel like for me, whatever they choose to do with it, I mean,
unless I feel like they secretly hate it and they gave it away and
they're like, oh gosh, this is like what is it called?
07:21 - Intro (Announcement)
An elephant gift. An elephant gift yes exactly.
07:24 - Anne (Host)
And so then I would be a little hurt if I knew. But I think my
intentions are to provide a token of appreciation, a token of
here's how I feel about you. And if the other person doesn't accept
it for themselves graciously at first, and then I realize, oh,
maybe they've immediately given it away or something, then I would
be hurt. I would be hurt by that Feeling like they've rejected my
gift.
07:45 - Lau (Host)
But, annie, let's be honest, we've all done that. Haven't we all
gotten that scarf? Or those gloves that are just the ugliest thing
in the world, do you think? Oh, they're itchy, they don't really
fit me. Well, let me, elephant, gift that to someone who will
appreciate it. And if not, you notice people are starting to say if
you don't want it, it's okay, pass it on. I'm like a
donate.
08:05 - Anne (Host)
The other thing would be like here's one things that people have
made for me. Now, this could be homemade food. This could be
homemade gifts. This could be my grandmother knitting me a sweater,
or my mother knitted me.
08:18
I'm gonna get me all teary, but my mother, she knitted me afghans
and blankets, and my aunt used to so close for me, and it reminds
me of the bunny suit on a Christmas story with Ralphie, and so you
accept that and you're grateful for it, because there was thought
and love put into the gift and so receiving that means that you're
receiving that love. You're receiving that gift.
08:41 - Lau (Host)
You're receiving it, you're suck it up. You do you do. You're
totally, because it's not the color of your bedroom and it just is
not the feel that you wanna put on your body, but you love it. You
put it on display somewhere. You just have to appreciate that,
right. What about this one? What about from a philosophical point
of view? As we live our lives every day around the holiday season,
how are we viewing gifts that are given by others or by the
universe? Are we recognizing any gifts, gifts?
09:09 - Anne (Host)
from the universe Locke. Let's delve deeper into that. So what
gifts from the universe? What would be some examples? I like
that.
09:16 - Lau (Host)
Well, I'm a New Englander, so on the New England track. I think all
of us can relate that come from cold weather climates and when I
have more, temperate weather or. I have a winter where we're not
like snowed in and killing ourselves with the slush. To me, I
recognize that as an immense gift.
09:35 - Anne (Host)
Nice and Californians are very grateful for rain.
09:38 - Lau (Host)
Yes, oh yes, yes, yes, yes. How about the gift of looking in the
mirror and seeing yourself for what you actually see, not for what
you want to see? So that is, as you age, seeing the wrinkles,
seeing the imperfections, seeing the scars, but then feeling like,
wow, there's a gift in there for me of understanding.
10:02 - Anne (Host)
That represents my life, my heart. Here I have to tell you because
my own personal experience. I have lost a little bit of weight and
so I look at my body, which is now kind of a wrinkly because I got
some skin, and I look at that and I'm like, ok, that could be
considered by some to not be attractive, but for me it's almost
like it's a battle scar. It's like you know what I'm proud
of?
10:23
my body I am proud, I am grateful. I am actually so grateful for my
body, for being resilient and for the things that my body has been
through, and I think that we can apply this to our businesses as
well right, our journey as our businesses. But, like my body has
been through a journey, my mentality, my entrepreneurship has been
through a journey, and I'm grateful for all of it because I've
survived it and I've been able to come out the other side more
joyful and educated and more motivated to do even more. And so I
really try to take a look at that and be grateful for that gift
from the universe right that I have received. And I love that we
kind of brought the gifts from the universe into this discussion,
because I think we have them every day and we don't always
recognize them for what they are and we aren't always receiving
them or acknowledging them with the amount of gratitude or thought
that I think we should.
11:23 - Lau (Host)
Right, or even just mindfulness, conscientiousness of seeing it and
observing. We talk about it from an actor's point of view, but from
a human point of view, are you really seeing what is in front of
you? What are you uncovering? And since we're diving deep, I'll go
one deeper, because you're not only surviving and you're thriving
in the gratefulness and recognition, in the gift of that, and
that's what makes you so beautiful, both aesthetically but also
inside. There's a beauty and a light that happens in you. To me
that's very recognizable and I'm going to dive even deeper. I'm
going to say I have someone very close to my family suffering from
a very deadly illness and eating it and I watch it every day go
into remission and I watch it turn around and I watch it Now, from
the outside, this person is somewhat suffering and all of that.
From the inside, I see that little soul, that little spirit winning
and I'm like a gift a gift, a gift, a gift every day.
12:28 - Anne (Host)
It's so true.
12:29 - Lau (Host)
If I lose the job, if I don't look good one day, whatever, this is
the gift that I'm going to keep coming back to, of course, and I
totally identify with that.
12:38 - Anne (Host)
I mean it is, and we've talked about this before.
12:41
I mean, yeah, when someone that you love or someone you're close to
is going through a challenge mental challenge, health challenge,
whatever that might be I mean, in reality, it really points us
towards knowing and understanding what those gifts are. And I've
said it before, when I was going through my own health challenge, I
mean, once I got back in the studio, I was like gosh, what was I
ever worried about? You know, here I was thinking, oh, my voice
doesn't sound in a particular way or I'd worry about those things,
and I'm like my gosh, I have just been given this immense gift and
I'm here to be able to experience and here to be able to just do
what I love in this booth and just be, just be and be grateful. And
well, I'll tell you what that comes through in our voices, doesn't
it? It emanates from us and, as performers, I think that it
behooves us to be good receivers, right Of the gifts that are being
given to us, because it just absorbs into our energy and just
radiates out from our performances.
13:39 - Lau (Host)
It so does, and I mean the gift of knowledge of how to give as
well, so like, for instance, when it comes to philanthropy and
charity. I love that. I'm big in that. I'll give a quick plug to
our 100 voices who care.
13:54 - Intro (Announcement)
We love.
13:54 - Lau (Host)
Claire and the gang we love so much. I'm a member and to me it's
such a relief, it's such a relief gift to me to figure out how to
give in a very safe and impactful and thought away. And as long as
I make money, I'm going to give forever because I don't have to
think about it. It's one less thing I have to think about because I
know it's vetted, I know it's legit and I know the people come from
their heart and soul. Wow, to me that's a gift.
14:23 - Anne (Host)
Exactly, and you know, the cool thing about 100 Voices who Care is,
honestly, it does not take a lot of money, and that's really what
the big thing is, and it's literally $100, four times a year, and
that's it. And ultimately that, combined with the community, the
togetherness that is also in kind, donating that, that is $10,000
that can be given to people in need or organizations in need, and I
think that that's absolutely wonderful and I think, really,
whatever giving charity that you want, again giving that and then
expecting that the people who are in need are receiving that and
they're grateful for it right, that's what makes the world go round
and that's what I think really giving is so easy to talk about,
because I love to give myself and I mean I consider the VoBoss
we're giving of ourselves joyfully, because it's something that we
both love to do, we love to share, we love to be a resource, we
love to help if we can, and that's what we're here for.
15:19
But I really really also want bosses out there to understand the
importance of being able to see and acknowledge and receive in kind
and be okay, it is for you, it doesn't have to be for anybody else,
you don't have to feel compelled to turn around and give it
somewhere else.
15:36
I fully believe that if a gift is meant for you and you love it and
you keep it for yourself, you give in other ways, right? I mean it
doesn't have to be that you have to turn around and feel like, oh,
I either need to give that gift or give a portion of that gift, or
you can keep it. I mean it's okay, it was meant for you and love,
and that is something that I think is really wonderful. And, of
course, I mean let's make it more from a business perspective,
right, being able to ask for the money that you deserve for a job
that has been well done is, first of all, when you do that yes, do
that but when you get that actual money and you receive that money,
then you'll notice that I feel like the cycle or the circle has
been completed.
16:18 - Lau (Host)
Yes, absolutely. And here's another one that is amazing but can be
tricky in how it's received. You and I, I know I'm grateful and
fortunate that we're nominated.
16:27
You and I and our companies for SOVA's nominations, which I'm
thrilled I'm over the moon. So when I learned that now you've been
nominated for years now that was my first time around being
nominated when I learned that it challenged me a little I'll be
honest with you. It challenged me. I had to sit there and go, well,
okay, do I deserve that? Is that okay, do I deserve that? Was there
anyone that deserves it more than me? Or, like it challenged me in
a way, I was over the moon, thrilled. I love to be a part of it,
the community be recognized. But at the end of the day, you have to
sit alone with yourself and say I did this, we did this, I did this
and I accept the good things coming my way, along with the
challenging things as well.
17:14
It's like you have to have a little conversation with yourself
about that and I'm very careful, like I don't want my head to be
big. I don't want to be gloaty about it, I don't want to hold it
over anyone else. I want to be very humane about the recognition
that I slash we as the company get because I feel so grateful for
it. I don't feel like, oh, of course I deserved it, I'm the best. I
feel like that's going in a direction of morality that is not of
high integrity. The highest integrity people are people who are
humble and they're modest and they have humility about themselves
and their work. Those are the people that I always have admiration
for yeah, absolutely, I love that.
17:54 - Anne (Host)
And receiving acknowledgement right Receiving acknowledgement is
absolutely another important, very important, I think, factor in
really having fulfilling and successful entrepreneurial journeys
and businesses right.
18:08
I think a lot of times what happens? We get a lot of people coming
into this industry that are so unhappy and there are jobs, because
I always tell people in the corporate world all we really want is
love. All we want is love and acknowledgement right Like
validation. It helps to make money right so you can pay the bills.
Absolutely, I mean that's first and foremost.
18:26
But I think a lot of times when people are dissatisfied with their
work, it's because they've really put their heart and soul into it
and nobody's acknowledged that and nobody has really recognized
that or given them a compliment or credited them for that, and so
that, I think, is one source of people really wanting to come into
business for themselves. And so now when we're entrepreneurs
feedback that we get and it's rare that we get feedback from
clients right, unless we go out and ask for it, which I'm the
biggest fan of, going out and getting testimonials right Get
yourself that acknowledgement. But also, when it comes
unexpectedly, it's something that I think we need to be prepared to
just receive it and be grateful for it and really know that you're
worth it, because there's something to be said about people who are
constantly degrading or downplaying or shunning those compliments
or acknowledgments or awards, and we did a podcast on awards.
There's just there's lots of different opinions about awards. Do
people need an award to do their business? Not
necessarily.
19:26
But I'll tell you sometimes that recognition very similar to being
in a corporate job or whatever it might be getting a little bit of
recognition can really help emotionally. Mental I mean. I feel like
everything in life it all stems mentally and then it kind of I'm
going to say, pushes out physically, right. Like I feel like
everything is in our head, like that's what is controlling the
earth, right? Our thoughts, right, I feel it's our thoughts and how
we feel about ourselves and how we feel about others and how we
treat it. It just directly affects the physical everything and I
think that it's so important.
19:59 - Lau (Host)
I just rambled off on this kind of tangent, but I think it's all
related, right, it's all related because if think of any
relationship we have, like I love acknowledging, I love validating,
I love giving compliments, I love that it doesn't only make me feel
good, it's necessary, it's like, okay, we're going to be tough on
someone, we're going to give honest feedback, we're going to say no
to someone, we're going to be harsh at times, but it's really
important to have those moments where you go you know what, I'm
really proud of you. Or hey, you did it, Nicely done. I'm so
excited for you.
20:34
Because otherwise I find people in general get really down on
themselves very fast and then lose steam, lose energy, lose
motivation, because they ultimately start to want to please or be
liked by the casting, producer, coach, whatever, and it becomes
personalized in that way. So it's like a fine line. I of course,
want to have that no-like and trust factor. Of course I want to
have that in the business world. But there's a fine line Like we
don't want to be motivated to only be liked and only be validated,
right.
21:11
Otherwise you're seeking to receive things all the time which are
not earned they're not always well earned. They're just that little
honor, that little star, for no reason. I want to live in a
meritocracy. Still, I want to be rewarded when I'm
earned.
21:27 - Anne (Host)
Yeah, I love that you brought that up because you're right, Seeking
to receive all the time is not good either. Being able to receive
is one thing, but seeking to always have likes or stuff like that
is also not healthy and doesn't create for a healthy business
either. Right, when you're constantly seeking approval and I think
that really kind of stems from other issues, like when you're
seeking approval all the time, and that could be a whole other
podcast Lau.
21:51 - Lau (Host)
That is a whole other podcast approval. Yeah, how do we respond to
all of the things that happen in our world that are not what we
want or not what we're expecting to come back to us? How do we
respond to those things Like not being nominated, not getting the
award, not getting? How do we respond to that?
22:13 - Anne (Host)
That always is a little pain, oh, always a pain, even when you know
better, like myself, and we know we've been on both sides right
when we want that acknowledgement, we want that award, we want that
feedback, and sometimes it just doesn't come back to us the way
that we want. And so how do we deal with that right? Again, that's
not necessarily a rejection right of something that you're
receiving, it's that you haven't received it. And so now, what?
Now, what do you do with that longing, that desire, that hope? How
do you get yourself back in balance?
22:44 - Lau (Host)
That's right. That's right. Balance is really the key because the
more balanced we are, the more we can easily give and offer and
receive and take. And not do it from an ego point of view, not do
it from this heavy ego centric, really do it from a place that's
very balanced and very open and very like. It's like a give and
take of Feng Shui. You know what I mean. Like you're cleansing
Every time you give something away. I find when I Feng Shui my
office or my studio and I give things away, if it's received well,
I feel cleansed right, and if I'm receiving something, well, I feel
cleansed.
23:19
There's like a cathartic thing that happens, a purification that
happens if it's not coming from pure ego which. I love. I think
it's fabulous.
23:27 - Anne (Host)
I can talk Clear the clutter, clear the clutter, clear the clutter,
physically clear the clutter in your brain. I mean it can really do
a lot to propel you and your business forward. Absolutely,
absolutely. What a really cool conversation Lau. I love it, I love
it Beautiful I love it, guys.
23:43
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amazing week and we'll see you next week. Bye.
24:19 - Lau (Host)
See you next time.
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