Jun 11, 2024
The BOSSES talk about practice this week! Through personal anecdotes and expert advice, they reveal that practice isn't just about refining technique—it's a journey to discover new habits that can benefit your career. The BOSSES talk about why many voiceover students skip practice sessions and how accountability partners and workout groups can be game-changers in your pursuit of vocal excellence. The BOSSES discuss the risks of practicing without professional oversight, and how it can lead to bad habits that are tough to break. They shine a spotlight on the undeniable advantages of participating in structured groups like Audition Demolition and VO Peeps, which offer both expert feedback and the kind of networking opportunities that can kickstart a career. We equate voice acting to mastering a musical instrument, asserting that progress requires commitment to practice beyond the four walls of coaching sessions.
00:02 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
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00:33 - Intro (Announcement)
It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level.
These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being
utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business
like a boss, a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Ann
Ganguza.
00:46 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Hey bosses, welcome to the VO Boss Podcast and the Boss Superpower
Series. I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, along with my special guest
co-host Lau Lapides. Hey, Lau, hey.
00:58 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Annie, it's great to see you, as always. How are you Wonderful,
ready to talk and chat it up?
01:05 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Awesome, awesome.
01:06 - Lau Lapides (Host)
So, Lau.
01:07 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
As you know, I am a coach, and as well as you, and it seems like
every week I have a few students that they always want to do live
reads with me during our sessions, which I think is wonderful. But,
as a coach and a former educator, I always assign homework, because
I want people to get the most out of their sessions.
01:25
So I feel like it's very important that they have different scripts
that they can read, they can record, they can practice getting used
to different styles, and I want to make sure that in between
sessions they are doing that on some sort of a daily basis. I think
that's super important for their growth and development. It amazes
me Lau how many times I will have students say well, I got really
busy and I get it. Like life happens, there's families, there's
things that happen and you can't always practice, but sometimes
there are students who just never seem to take the time to really
work in between sessions. I thought we should have a discussion
about that.
02:03 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point. I used to think, and my
team used to think and oftentimes mistake, when that happened, and
it happened quite frequently with us as well that they didn't care,
they weren't engaged, they weren't serious, they were lazy, all of
those things. Sometimes, it is true I don't know if that's it or
they procrastinate, procrastination was very, very big.
02:25 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
That's a whole other episode.
02:27 - Lau Lapides (Host)
It's a whole other episode, but I mean, I have found that the
learning process of how you cement technique and how you utilize
your tools and how you really discover organically who you are as a
performer is through the practice session and there's different
methodologies that you've got to look at to make it successful for
yourself. And, of course, one which is very hot today the
accountability of having at least one other person, one partner,
out there that's going to meet you, that's going to be with you,
live real time and work you through. It has typically been very
successful for people that their schedules match. Sure, they're
well matched together, they enjoy being together, it becomes a
professional friendship for them and it can work.
03:15 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Well, now you're talking about accountability like an
accountability group, right, that can just say all right. So what
did you do this week to further your business? So I want to make
sure that we're talking not just accountability in terms of hey,
what did you do this week to secure more leads, to get
more?
03:32 - Intro (Announcement)
work.
03:32 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
We're talking accountability for, let's say, if you want to get
better at the craft and I think there's lots of things that you can
do to help yourself get better at the craft- and now it's hard to
have an ear when you haven't developed an ear yet, and so sometimes
I'll give homework and people will get very upset if they're like,
yeah, but I did the homework, but now that you've told me these
things, you shouldn't listen to that homework anymore. But,
honestly, the homework that I gave or the scripts that I give, no
matter what performance level you're at, right, there's so many
good reasons to do the homework.
04:09 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Oh, no question about it.
04:11 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Because even if you don't have an ear yet, there's many advantages
of you experiencing and attempting to record by yourself and get
things submitted on time. Gosh, there's just so many things right,
it's like auditioning techniques.
04:28
There's editing techniques you're getting better at, you're
experiencing different styles.
04:32
I mean you could be within a genre and have multiple different
style scripts come your way that you have to analyze and figure
out.
04:40
And so, for me, if you don't have a discipline of doing something
voiceover every single day performance-wise right, I think you're
kind of missing the boat. And I'm not going to say that you're lazy
if you don't do it, but I am going to say that having something
that you do every single day is important because it helps you
learn, as you said, who you are. As you said who you are, it helps
you learn like, oh, if I record a script in the morning, I realize,
oh, I have a lower voice in the morning, or I have more energy in
the morning, or versus recording after a long day at work, right,
oh, I sounded a little bit strained in that performance. So it
helps to know who you are as a performer by having those practice,
having the exercises, having the homework, whatever you want to
call it. And also, yeah, I think having an accountability buddy is
very helpful. And also, la, let's talk about workout
groups.
05:33 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Oh, absolutely. And I'll tell you, you know, before this idea of
accountability, buddies came in, which really came from other
industries, completely like the gym. Working out at a gym, you'd
have an accountability partner at a gym. You know, way before I
knew about it for voiceover, I always learned it as an actor In
conservatory level. You would always be in rehearsal. We didn't
call it practice sessions, we called it rehearsal. You were always
rehearsing your roles, always. And could you rehearse alone,
rehearsing your roles always. And could you rehearse alone? Of
course, and you have to rehearse alone at times, but when you can
be with another person, that level of energy and stimulation and
fun factor I think helps to cement a discipline of saying I got to
come to it every day. It's like I have a class that I'm going to
yes.
06:23
I have to get to that. I have to do that. I'm being held to that.
So then, when you go to your workout classes, you have a lot to
bring to the table because guess what, you're not just relying on
the workout class to give you everything You've already been
working out on your own right. And then you're bringing that in for
your director or your coach or your facilitator and saying here are
things I've been working on, here are things I've been coaching and
practicing and rehearsing every day. Now let me work through it
with a live group in the room.
06:55 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Absolutely, and I think that that gives you yet another level of
practice that can really help you develop auditioning skills, and
it can, again, it makes you accountable.
07:06
You're like, well, I don't want to be a complete fool, I should
probably right, I should probably work on my technique or my
performance, so that when I get in front of the group, right, I'm
not going to necessarily seem like I don't know what I'm doing. And
so I do want to say one word of caution when working out with peer
groups right, peer groups without necessarily someone that can
really guide along the peer group that maybe have more experience
might be just floundering, shall I say, or misguiding. If that's
the case, if you have a bunch of new people in a workout group and
you're all directing one another, sometimes you can get direction
that may not be helpful because everybody is new. So at least if
you're working out with a group of people, if you can try to have a
leader of that group that can oversee or that has some experience,
some casting experience, some coaching experience that can help
guide, if there is feedback that may or may not be helpful to you
for your performance.
08:03 - Lau Lapides (Host)
I couldn't say that any better, annie. I'm not a fan of pair
workout groups and the reason is because it's not that you can't
have professional friends and you can't help one another, you can.
But I get concerned about and I'll bring it back to the gym again,
because it's an easy analogy that if I meet up with two or three or
four people and we're all lifting the 50-pound weight or whatever
and I'm just not doing it properly and they're not aware of that,
they're not catching that, they might even be saying great job,
lau. Oh my God, look at your biceps. And meanwhile I'm straining my
back, I'm hurting my lower back. I'm hoping that the facilitator or
the coach or the trainer has that knowledge base to say hey, hey,
hey, no, no, no, no, we don't do it that way.
08:49 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Here's your proper technique, here's your proper form.
08:51 - Lau Lapides (Host)
That's my biggest concern. And the other concern I have about a
peer workout group as well is be careful, like, have your gossip
antennas up. We shouldn't be going into a practice rehearsal,
performance group to talk about the business or gossip about other
people or whatever. And oftentimes it can go down that road of like
oh, who did you audition for today? Oh, I got that script. Oh, what
do you think of her? How come she sent that out? And then all of a
sudden all sorts of things are said in that room which are not
appropriate, makes people feel really uncomfortable and is
completely off topic from what you came in to do in the first
place, which was practice.
09:33 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, yeah, and we're talking again bosses. We're talking
performance and techniques, not necessarily business meetings,
right, we're business accountability and in that place I think you
can talk about the business, the industry as it exists. And I agree
with you. I think gossip we have to be very careful about gossip,
just because I don't think gossip serves any useful purpose really,
and it is one of those things that gets to think of let's gossip
around the water cooler. It happens.
10:00
I mean, we do it, we do it, but I think that business
accountability groups or performance groups should probably steer
clear of that, if it's possible. I don't think it's really
constructive in a lot of ways. And in regards to workout groups, I
mean I can't sit here on the VO Boss podcast and not say we have an
audition, demolition, which is a really wonderful group where you
can work out, and we have a simulated audition and you can get
feedback from coaches, lau and myself and also work up your live
performance skills as well. As I have the VO Peeps, which has a
workout group that happens once a month. That is part of the group
and you've got TIC right.
10:39 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Then you have workouts that happen for your group, lau, yeah, we
got weekly workouts happening and I wanted to say about Audition
Demolition, when we came up with that, Annie, like I don't even
think we realized really the impact that that kind of a live
directed session has. And I'll be honest, I mean you can edit this
out later. It's educational, it's developmental, it's social. But
let me be honest, I have pulled a few of those people for my roster
that were amazing people that came in that I said, oh my goodness,
they need an agent or they need representation, like ASAP. So
whenever you go into a professional work experience like this,
you're in a room, you're auditioning, You're actually auditioning.
It's the real deal. It's not a mock audition, it's not a mimic
audition, it's a real Well, even though we say it is, but it is
real.
11:31 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
It's not a mock audition, it's not a mimic audition, it's a real.
Well, even though we say it is, but it is real, it's
real.
11:35 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Annie could be casting something or have a friend that's producing
something and she may be thinking about you because she just saw
you in the room. So I'm just saying come in and really experience
the live directed session and observe Also observe what's happening
with others with your colleagues. It absolutely. And observe also
observe what's happening with others with your colleagues. It's
fabulous.
11:54 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
And with your weekly workouts as well as mine. I have guest
directors that come in on a regular basis and I cannot tell you the
amount of times where I've had a casting director come in or a
talent agent and I can never promise right. As a matter of fact, I
even have to have a disclaimer saying that this does not guarantee
you representation at all. However, there have been a number of
peeps that have come into my workout groups and performed well and
they have been signed with an agent or they have struck up a
relationship with a casting director and then gotten hired. So I
think that these are the things that I think are very beneficial
for bosses out there in really growing in the performance aspect of
your career, and it's so, so important because I am a business
owner, I am a coach. If you say to me, I want to do live reads
every time we meet, of course I can do live reads, but I also want
you to be working on them in between sessions, because otherwise
it's going to take you a really long time to get to the point where
you're going to be ready to, let's say, record a demo or ready to
really get out there and do work. It's kind of like I used to take
piano lessons back in the day and if I didn't practice in between
my lessons, boy did my teacher know it, because she would give me
music to practice during the week. And so when I would meet with
her the following week, if I didn't practice, it guess what? It was
very painfully obvious, and she could take my money week after
week. And if I didn't practice, well, my mom would be angry,
because you know she's like why am I spending all that money on
these sessions? And if you think about it, really, bosses, you're
spending money and you should be getting the most out of your
sessions that you can. So, in addition to the I would say, workout
groups that are led with coaches or people that are experienced,
that can really help move you forward, also yourself in the studio,
working on these scripts and even fumbling, which is fine. That's
what they're there for. I mean, that's why I give
homework.
13:57
And then struggling through the editing, and people always say,
well, do you really need me to edit it? And I said I want you to
edit it, like it's an audition for me, right? So then I'm going to
play it back for you and then we're going to talk about it and I'm
going to redirect you. And the reason I do that is not because I
want to just give you busy work. It's not busy work, it is giving
you so much more.
14:18
Like this is what's going to happen when you get a job right You're
going to have to record in your studio, you're going to have to
self-direct, you're going to have to edit that audio and you're
going to have to present it. Or, if you're doing an audition right
and you're going to have to put it in a form that someone can
actually listen to, you're going to have to understand your editing
skills. You're going to have to in certain cases in e-learning and
corporate, you have to remove breaths or you have to really
de-amplify your breaths and you have to do all those things. And
I'm like, look, the point of me giving you something on a
day-to-day basis to do is not to stress you out.
14:51
It is to help you get the most out of our sessions together, and I
think that it's important that you have a discipline. If you can
spend 20 minutes a day, if you can spend an hour a day, if you can
spend more than that, that's wonderful. But take time set aside and
make a discipline and sometimes I say mix up the times, like if you
can do it in the morning before you, if you have another job that
you go to do it in the morning before you go to the job, and then
maybe, if you can do it during the lunch hour, maybe try it when
you come home. And then you get to know yourself, know your
performance level, know, oh, I sound good in the morning, I have a
lot of energy, or I sound horrible after a day's work, when it's
been horrible.
15:31 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Well said. Couldn't have said it any better. I mean, that's really
what it is, and when you show up to, whatever you show up to, don't
underestimate it. What I mean by that is whether it's a partner of
yours, whether it's a workout group, whether it's in front of a
casting director, whether it's audition demolition. Put yourself
together as if you are a professional in a professional
environment, and I don't care if people are showing up in pajamas
and they're coming from bed. Don't do it.
15:58
Don't make the mistake to do that, because not only will your
psychology not be up to par with the level at which you need to be
sustaining and working at, but you could literally lose
connections, you could lose jobs, you could lose potential
opportunities, because I don't know about you, annie, but I see the
weirdest things and tick Like all of a sudden I see a bed and I'm
like why am I looking at an unmade bed and I have to take out the
video. Like I have to literally watch out and take out the video. I
see the weirdest things and I'm like why would you show up in bed?
Why would you show up just coming out of the shower? Why would you
show up in these ways? These are meetings, professional meetings,
and I think that the casualness of being at home has trained people
into thinking well, I'm on Zoom, it's just I'm here. No, you're
still in a professional meeting environment where people are
thinking about the work you're doing. They're observing
you.
16:56 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Well, it is about more than just your voice. I mean, it is about
the professionalism and professional demeanor and how you act, what
you look like. It's all part of the package. And that's that whole
discussion. Like, do we even need demos anymore? Of course we do.
Do we need performance coaching? Of course we do. I mean, in
reality, I mean this is what makes us who we are. It helps us
develop and move forward in our businesses.
17:18
And again, I cannot stress enough that if you're not dedicating a
certain amount of time on a day-to-day basis to get better at this
craft, then I'm not quite sure what you're doing. And that's fine
if maybe it's just a hobby for you, Maybe it's just something
you're trying out to see, if you enjoy it. And a lot of times there
are people who are like oh gosh, I didn't realize it was going to
be work, I thought I was just talking behind the mic and a lot of
times, right again, you don't know what you don't know. And so if
you think it's easier than it is, that's another reason why I give
the homework that I give so that people can see that it really
isn't and so that you can get the feedback, you can get the
evaluation and I can say you know what it sounds like. You need to
improve on your studio a little bit. I'm hearing a little bit of
noise, or, hey, I'm hearing some mouth clicks, or I'm hearing
whatever that is, or your performance sounds like it's not. I don't
believe it, it's not authentic, and so those are the things that
your practicing is going to help you.
18:16
And again, at some point, it's like you practice and you don't hear
yourself. You don't hear yourself and then you get feedback and
then you come back, you practice some more and then you get some
more feedback, which is why I think having that coaching or having
that professional that can give you feedback is so incredibly
critical to improve in your career. I mean, can you do it all on
your own by watching videos? I think that can be a supplement if
you have a good group the VO Peeps we have videos that you can
watch that were people that have worked out before with guest
directors who are amazing in their field. I mean Lau, you've been
on it a couple of times with guest directors who are amazing in
their field. I mean Lau, you've been on it a couple of times. And
Audition, Demolition gosh guys, we have the Audition Demolitions on
the VO Boss YouTube channel. You can go and watch them now and
learn from those. So, yeah, I think that those types of workouts,
those types of group practices, are something that can be very
beneficial for you.
19:10 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Absolutely. I couldn't have said it any better. You're taking the
words out of my head. I would say this, though, too I think you and
I take for granted how much energy and stamina and willfulness we
have in going from session to session, hour to hour, moment to
moment, through a very, very long day, because we've been trained
that way, we're used to that, we expect that to some degree, we
enjoy that, we love that. Well, I have found like, when I run
classes and as it goes after the first hour into 90 minutes, I
start watching the group to see is their energy going, is their
stamina going? By two hours, people are starting to pop up. Yes,
yes, I am so shocked at that Listen.
19:56
Mama lau knows, mama lau, mama lawu knows that they're lying when
they say, oh, I got an appointment, I have to go.
20:04 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
No, they're getting tired. Yeah, they leave after two hours. And
you know, that's so interesting that you say that, because it used
to be years ago I would have three-hour workouts and if it were
like a guest director, that was like top in their field. People
would stay until they left. I mean, it was just like they couldn't
get enough of it. And lately, lau, I have had sessions where my
guest director goes a little bit past two hours and people are like
I got to go, I got to go, I'm off, right, and I find that a little
bit disturbing.
20:35 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Well, therein lies the background and the history of that talent,
and where has their training come from? Where has their experience
come from? I'll use an example, because a lot of voiceover talent
are also on-camera actors as well. Many, many, many. If they're on
a film set, they know they have to have patience for 7, 8, 11, 14
hours. They're not just going to be released because they get
tired. They're going to have to stick that through and figure out
what makes them stay with it throughout that time frame. I mean
same with, like, if you do theater, many voiceover talent come from
a theater background. Well, that's a big rehearsal process. You
could go in for three, four, five hours at a time to rehearse a
show. So those folks that come in, I find those folks that come in
already have a built-in understanding of time and energy and
stamina.
21:30 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, I mean stamina, stamina. I'm just going to say there is
something to be said for stamina and especially because, let's say,
I mean I work a lot in long-format narration, right, you need
stamina to be able to be present in that script, to execute that
45-module e-learning right. And audiobook narrators, I find, have
good stamina, but there's also material that may be completely
interesting to them, right. Whenever it's story-driven, right, I
feel like, well, at least there's some story in there, and
sometimes there may not be stories within the stories, but you have
to develop a vocal muscle. You really do.
22:08
And it's kind of like me when I gosh back in the day when I was
teaching, and I would be teaching class after class after class
after class, your voice had to get used to talking. That much. I
mean I had to build up stamina. You go to the gym, right, I got to
build muscle. You have to build vocal muscle and you have to build
not only vocal muscle but mental muscle.
22:26
That really helps you to stick it out, to be present, to be that
actor for the amount of time that you need. I mean, if there's
breaks in between, right, and you're watching somebody else go in a
group session, right, and all of a sudden it's like but I'm on the
East Coast, right. I get people that say that I'm on the East Coast
and I got to go to bed. Okay, I get that, but still, there's
stamina. Right, there is a muscle that you need to build up If you
really want to see yourself succeed, and we might have people that
argue with us and say is it that hard? Yeah, I mean, I feel like it
can be if you want to be good at this, right.
22:59 - Lau Lapides (Host)
But wouldn't you say also, though, annie, that there's this whether
it's an addiction factor or a dopamine kick or whatever it is, I
find so many of us that come from these backgrounds and work
through a long day, work through a long shift, love it. We just
can't get enough of it. There's an insatiable need to keep doing
it. So if you're practicing, for instance, you shouldn't keep
practicing at five minutes or 10 minutes for a year, two years,
three years. You should be building that time frame and that
stamina and the passion for why you're staying longer with it. I
just love what we do. I love what I do. I enjoy what I do. I want
more of it. I want to do more of it. You know what I
mean.
23:42
If I teach a live class and I teach a live class in a studio, which
is more rare nowadays they're typically six to eight hours in
length, and the kids that sit in the class, that are like in the
20s or in the 30s. They will start to fade about halfway through.
I'll see them kind of like fade, and I'll be like you know what?
You guys, I'm not used to taking as many breaks, but you tell me
when you need a break. I don't want to lose you Just tell me when
you need a break.
24:07
But those kinds of things in your training is so important because
then when you go practice on your own, if you've done six hours of
training or eight hours of training in a row, to do 15 minutes or
30 minutes is no longer a big deal for you. It's all relative right
in a lot of ways.
24:24 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely. So Law, what are your best tips
for developing that stamina muscle that you would say voice actors
can do to help their performance?
24:37 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Well, perhaps this is redundant. You need to do it and you should
do it a lot, and so, like, let's say you're joining a class or a
group or a workout or whatever it is. You need to, like, top
yourself, keep challenging yourself, keep topping yourself. One
group may be one hour. That's going to help me practice. That's all
I need for now. One hour is perfect. But then I want to also join a
group that may go two hours in length, because I want to be able to
see.
25:04
This is one of the things, annie, that graduate school taught me. I
didn't realize at the time, but later I realized they taught you
how to teach your craft, direct your craft, produce your craft.
Why? Because you weren't always performing, you were observing all
the people in the room. Yeah, you were made to give feedback to
every single person in the room, until you were blue in the face
and said I don't know what to say anymore. They said you better
figure out what to say, because if you're teaching in a program, if
you're producing a project or you're doing whatever and you have to
give feedback, you have to give feedback. So that's a muscle.
That's a muscle where you have to just keep exposing yourself to
more and more people simultaneously and more and more time. I just
want to say one more thing about actors. Actors oftentimes
beginning-level actors would get very annoyed if they're in a room
where they only get to work for a very small part of the
time.
26:01
And then they have to watch 15 people right, and I said you better
thank your lucky stars because that's going to be one day, your
company, your team, your classroom, your whatever and you're going
to have to have the stamina and discipline to go through every
single one of those auditions, every single one of those
performances student or someone that really wants to learn as much
as they possibly can, will understand the value of sitting there
and listening and watching other people.
26:31 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
And you're right, there's a lot of people who will be quick to
complain that, well, they might do a group workout, but they only
get 10 minutes on mic, and so I believe that you should have
individual attention, which is great for one-on-one coaching as
well as the group workouts.
26:47
Yes, I do too. That together builds your muscle and really is
something I advise everyone and to get experience and exposure with
different directors, which is why one of the reasons why I have the
VO Peeps group and it's one of the reasons why you have TIC right
and you bring in guest directors, because it's very important for
you to get exposure from different teachers, from different
feedback from different people, because it just helps you become a
more well-rounded actor. And, of course, if you can make that
discipline I mean you don't want to be investing all your money
into sessions and not be getting the most out of your sessions, out
of your sessions and so, with that, if you are making the
investment to get that coaching, then make sure that you start to
exercise that muscle on a daily basis or every other day, whatever
you can work in on a consistent basis. I think consistency is
key.
27:42 - Lau Lapides (Host)
Right, it doesn't always have to be constant, but it should be
consistent. That's really important, and I would build in every
time work, a new tool, something that you have observed, picked up,
been coached or directed to do. Write it down. Don't just keep it
in your head and forget about it, because there's a million things
that coaches and directors are going to be offering to you
throughout your career that you're just not going to be able to
conjure up and remember. So you have to document. However, you
document, document and pull one thing out, say, oh okay, annie
coached me, okay, she gave me builds. This week I got to work on my
build. Let me look at this script. Let me work on my build. That's
going to take my focus into a very specific zone, rather than me
standing in the booth going has 15 minutes gone by yet? Have I
practiced enough? Right, exactly.
28:24 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Exactly, and I'm going to say when you practice, it requires your
focus. So for me to be the best actor that you can be, it requires
100 plus percent focus into your scene who you are, who you're
talking to, because it's so easy to just read, so easy to just
read. So don't just get in there and read. Get in there and create
those scenes, figure out who you're talking to be in the scenes.
And that requires imagination, it requires a lot of focus and
that's tiring.
28:51 - Lau Lapides (Host)
And take care of yourself, like don't dehydrate, don't overheat,
don't feel like I'm standing for so long I can't see straight. If
your eyes are hurting you from the light, turn the light off. Be
easy on your brain so that your brain can focus on the more
important things, that's, your work at hand. Make your environment
conducive to practice. How many times, annie, have you seen one of
your clients that you meet on a coaching session on Zoom and
they're in the dark? They're in the dark and I'm like where's your
light? Where's your light? How do you see? Aren't you straining
your eyes? They're like, oh yeah, let me set something up. How do
you see, aren't you straining your eyes? You're like, oh yeah, let
me set something up. You got to do what's best for you. What makes
your work more palatable for you is what's going to make your
practice sessions more enjoyable. Right, absolutely.
29:38 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Good stuff, Lau, great stuff. So very important bosses, practice,
get your practice in, get your discipline in All right. Practice,
get your practice in, get your discipline in All right. I am going
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and we'll see you next week. Bye.
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