Feb 4, 2025
Discover the art of developing
self-awareness and confronting the illusions we create both
personally and professionally. Join Anne and Lau as they tackle the
challenge of overcoming self-doubt, emphasizing resilience over
inherent talent. By embracing our realities and addressing the
falsehoods we tell ourselves, you'll learn how profound
self-awareness can shape our lives. The BOSSES discuss how trusted
companions and self-reflection can shine a light on our paths,
leading to greater authenticity and success. Explore practical
techniques to turn setbacks into opportunities for growth. We
discuss the delicate balance between trusting external advice and
listening to personal intuition.
00:00 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
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00:26 - Intro (Announcement)
It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level.
These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being
utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business
like a boss a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, anganguza. A VO
Boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguzza.
00:45 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Hey everyone, welcome to the VO Boss podcast and the Boss
Superpower Series. I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, and I'm here with
my amazing, wonderful friend and co-host, ms Lau Lapides.
00:59 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Thank, you so much, I'm already getting verklempt. Incredible to be
here, as always, love it Law.
01:06 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I love chatting with you and I have a very interesting topic, I
think, today.
01:12
Because, I love me some Peloton.
01:14
So when I'm not Pilate-ing, I am Peloton-ing, or I am pre-coring,
but I'm Peloton-ing a lot and I have a favorite instructor. I have
a couple of favorite instructors, but one of them for those Peloton
people who know, cody I love Cody. I was spinning away and Cody
said you know, my therapist asked me how do you know when you're
lying to yourself, or do you know that you're lying to yourself?
And I thought, wow, what a great question. First of all because it
really makes you kind of stop in your tracks and think Honestly,
laura, throughout my life there are many times that you kind of
know, right, you kind of know when you're lying to yourself. Maybe
you're in some form of denial, but you're lying to yourself. And I
think that we need to delve deep into this Lau today and ask our
bosses do you know when you're lying to yourself and what are the
stakes in that and how can you get past that? Because I think that
to be productive and to really be successful in this business, you
need to stop lying to yourself.
02:20 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Yeah, and I think that there has to be at least a brief bullet hit
list of how do you deal with that, Like, how do you even know? How
do you start to know what are some of the dead giveaways that you
may be lying to yourself? The first one that comes to my mind is do
you have or are you aware of? I think you have it, but are you
aware of your inner voice? Are you aware of it, do you?
02:43 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
hear it? Oh, I hear mine all the time. That's a very interesting
question, because I actually thought everybody hears their inner
voice.
02:51 - Intro (Announcement)
No.
02:51 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
But I actually have read that scientific studies say that not
everybody has an inner voice. My inner voice talks to me all the
time. Oh my gosh, all the time. What about?
02:59 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
you. Yeah, mine is very strong and very loud and I already know all
the justifications and lies I tell myself when I hear the voice in
order to do something. And that's the next question I have is once
you spot that inner voice, what are the common hyperbolic
statements or lies, or fibs? That you're coming up with that. Feel
really good to you to say in order to void out that
voice.
03:27 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Well, first of all, what if you're someone who doesn't have an
inner voice? Is that something that you can assess? Can you make an
inner voice come out? Maybe people don't define it as an inner
voice. Maybe they define it as a belief system, right?
Maybe?
03:40 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
they hide it, Maybe they bury it, Maybe they've been shamed to
listen to it. There's a lot of reasons why I think people don't
discover or find their inner voice. I think one of the things that
I've always done I always chalked it up to just being a creative
ensemble type of person but I think it is helpful in a sounding
board of understanding what is the objective truth for you and your
circumstance if you can't discover it on your own through your
inner voice.
04:08
One of the things that I find helpful is surrounding yourself with
really incredible people, brilliant people that you know and trust
and feel good about sharing certain things with that you can
soundboard with and see is it matching what you may be saying
internally or not? Because there is a community truth about how
people see you, hear you and, especially if they know you, they
know your thought process right so they can sort of catch you when
you're going off track.
04:37 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, yeah, it depends on life situations, right, I'm going to say
the first inner voice is the truth, right? The inner voice, really,
I think, is your truth, and do you listen to your inner voice,
meaning, do you know when you're lying, do you know when you're
lying to yourself, that kind of thing? So I think that's when
you're denying that inner voice from having any say in kind of the
truth, or you're in a denial of the truth, or you're in a denial of
acknowledging that the truth is going. We're getting really deep
here, but you're acknowledging.
05:08 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Go right there, I'm right with you.
05:10 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
You're acknowledging that you're not ready for the truth right now.
Right, you're not ready for it, because to get through that truth
or to listen to that truth may require an effort that is like
gargantuan and superhuman to get beyond that truth. And this could
be anything. It could be personal, professional. I mean, of course,
personal affects professional. But I'm going to kind of focus on
the professional, having had an inner voice that I denied through
personal issues because I wasn't ready to face them. And so for me
it's kind of like you get really good at telling yourself lies, you
get really good at justifying why you're not listening to that
inner voice. Yes, because it keeps you safe. Right, it keeps you
safe in a lot of ways, or it keeps you from I don't know why. Is it
that you don't want to look or do the work that's required to get
through the truth and to align with the truth?
06:03 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Well, there could be I mean for psychological reasons, lots of
reasons, but I think one deeply psychological common reason that I
see in a lot of actors, artists, voiceovers and women is the
sabotaging effect of arguing with yourself that you cannot be good
enough.
06:22
It's not possible for you to get this successfully done because of
X, y, z, you're not worthy, right, you're not worthy. So therein
lies your inner voice. But is the inner voice being honest and
truthful, or is the inner voice a sabotage voice? Yeah, yeah,
absolutely that. You've created as like an alter ego to help you
disqualify, get out of situations you know, qualify things and get
you off the hook. I think artists do that. An awful lot is to say
all the reasons why they cannot do something versus why they can do
something, and after a while of telling yourself those lies, you
actually believe them.
07:00 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah yeah, I'm not getting work because, right yeah, talk
professionally, right Okay, I'm not'm not getting work because,
right, you'll talk professionally, right Okay.
07:05
I'm not a successful voice actor because right, no one's going to
hire me because, right, I'm not talented enough, my voice is not
good enough, I don't have the right equipment, right, and so
therefore, does that allow you to? I've spent all this money and
I've gotten nowhere, right? So are you going to quit? Because
you're listening right to those lies that you're telling yourself,
or the inner voices, your inner self is you right? So we're talking
to ourselves. So inner self is you, and inner self could be telling
lies that you fabricated.
07:40 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Or it's the voices that have been with you over your lifetime that
are the cacophony of voices that are not accurate or true. Yeah,
that you've believed. You've gone down that road and sort of
believed that that's who.
07:53 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
That's the role that you are. They've turned into your inner voice,
right.
07:59 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
And they've turned into your inner voice, where you pick up the
things that you believe that people think or feel about you maybe
from your home life or your friendship life or whatever that aren't
necessarily an objective truth in the larger world, in the larger
context of things, and that, I think, is very, very common Also,
especially with women. I think just wanting to please, just being a
pleaser, is a big driving force in not listening to your inner
voice.
08:27
Yeah, You're saying, oh I'll just, yeah, they want me to do it this
way, I'll just do it this way. Or they're asking me for this, I'll
just give it to them and putting your common sense, putting that to
the side for the higher purpose of pleasing, yeah,
absolutely.
08:43 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I mean, that is so, so tough, and I'll tell you what, and I'm not
getting into a political discussion, but I will say that external
factors also play a part in that inner voice, right.
08:56
I feel like the nation is tired. Female right and we've had
discussions on being a female in this industry or being a female in
male-dominated industries. I'm tired. I've been fighting for a long
time. I've been fighting for a long time and the inner voice wants
to say, right, I fight because I believe certain things to be true
and that is my truth. Right, but then the other people feeding into
the inner voice you're not good enough or you know what? We're
never going to make a difference. Now do I feel like? Am I going
back to step zero? And what is it that I need to resolve
internally, with my internal voice? That's going to help me to deal
right with the external factors that are flying at me in every
second of the day, and that's important.
09:45 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
That's an important factor. It is every second of the day and
that's important. That's an important factor because when you think
about either your parents or whoever raised you when you were
young, you're like a little recorder. You're like a sponge. You're
picking up language and sound and cadence and everything. You're
picking that up from the people around you and that's implanted in
you. It's very hard to get that out and stop thinking that and
doing that. So it's really again compartmentalizing. Okay, what my
lived and learned experience was and still is good, bad and ugly,
which everyone experiences. And then where am I as a professional
in what I'm choosing to experience and who I'm creating?
10:24
Someone was telling an anecdote about this and I thought it was
brilliant and he said I get annoyed. He's like in his 40s. He's a
professional, whatever it was, like a psychiatrist or something. He
said I go home and my parents treat me exactly like I'm 12 again,
they talk to me as if I'm 12. Mine do Right and you got to love
that right. But it annoys him to death because he says I have a
family, I have children, I have a successful career. It's like they
haven't graduated to that level. But that's where I'm saying you
have to compartmentalize all these players in your life that speak
to you in a certain way, sure, that code that linguistically code
shift right, that say it's okay, they knew me at different times in
my life good times, bad times, young, older. Now I have to
amalgamate. What does that all mean in my voice? In my voice as to
who I am and what I want to be? That's hard. That's the next step.
Yeah, that's the next step.
11:21 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I mean it's interesting because, as we are talking about the inner
voice, is the inner voice really what you think or is it what
others think, right? Or is it a combination of both of them? And
also, is your inner voice something that you're doing to escape
responsibility or escape owning up to a fact that maybe you haven't
done everything you can to be successful in voice acting? And then,
if that's the case, right, you have to try to ask yourself why,
right, why am I afraid of success? And that's a big thing, I mean,
look, you can be just as afraid of success, if not more, as a
failure, right? Are you afraid to fail? Are you afraid of success?
And I'll tell you what. Are you afraid of hard work? Yeah, and once
you're there, whatever you've deemed to be your success, right.
What's stopping you from growing more than that? Or are you
complacent?
12:09
For me, my personality is I cannot be stagnant. I cannot. I need to
continue to grow my business. I need to continually evolve. If I
don't, I feel like I'm failing, and for me, that's the motivation I
need to push myself. Now, am I afraid of hard work? Me, no, I am
not.
12:25
But some people might be, some people might think, well, I just
want, I just I'm tired, I've got a lot of other things happening
and voice acting should not have been this hard for me, right In
the beginning. I'm the first person to admit voice acting was hard
for me, and it was one of those things where I said to myself God,
like, maybe I shouldn't be doing it. If it's this hard, right,
shouldn't it just come naturally? Shouldn't I just have a God-given
talent? Shouldn't this just flow for me? And over years of
continually saying, well, I'm not used to failing For me myself. My
personality is like to just keep going until I don't fail, figuring
out as I go, I ultimately decided, yeah, damn it, it's hard, voice
acting is hard. I think it's very rare that you have anybody that
has just an innate talent for reading words off a page and making
them like sound amazing.
13:09 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
I got to be honest. I don't think anyone in any of our
entertainment profession has it easy.
13:15 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I don't. I don't either. I really don't. Just because you and I
have been in the industry for many, many, many years right and
we've been deemed successful, doesn't mean that we feel successful
all the time right, doesn't mean that we feel successful all the
time right or that we consider ourselves successful at any given
moment.
13:29 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
No, that's like an illusion that people want to think is a truism,
is a truth. When it's not a human truth, it's not a human thing.
Maybe it's a robot thing, but it's not a human thing Because we're
always going through situations in our life that we're reacting to,
as well as human beings in the world that we're reacting to as well
as human beings in the world that we're reacting to as
well.
13:50 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
And things change.
13:51 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
And things change. But I always say, like, what's the difference?
What's the main difference between someone who's young and amateur
early stage and someone who is a vetted professional? What's the
main difference? And it's not talent, it's the fact that we all get
down. We all fall down. We all's not talent, it's the fact that we
all get down, we all fall down, we all get in trouble, but we're
able to get up, brush ourself off and move on.
14:12 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Get back on the horse and make use of that.
14:13 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Yeah, really make use of that, whereas many are not able to do
that. It's holding them down, it's holding them back. There's that
stone right on top of them that they're not able to move. So that
voice is like as heavy as any equipment that could be out there.
It's heavier. It can be either a burden or it can be
enlightenment.
14:33 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
It's up to you. I love what you're saying about the failure Again,
like if you failed and you've allowed that inner voice to say I am
a failure, right, without taking benefit from the fail, I'd say get
back up on the horse, turn the fail around and spin that into
positive things. What positive things can you take from that
right?
14:53
So, if there is the dialogue happening where I'm not good enough
right, I failed, I didn't get that gig right, I was not chosen
right, they didn't pick my voice, I didn't nail the audition. Take
that failure and I need you to reframe it right and restructure it
so that it becomes a learning moment that can be turned into
success. I mean, I think that's really like how do you know when
you're lying to yourself? Acknowledge it first. I think that's
first and foremost.
15:19
Once you acknowledge it right. You then have the power to take that
truth and take that knowledge and reframe it, and then reframe it
to successful.
15:30 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Reframe it and how do you use, how do you utilize that reframing to
be helpful in your life and in others' lives? So it becomes wisdom.
It doesn't just sit in a place where it's a bad experience or it's
an experience that was a great experience. It becomes a nugget of
wisdom for you.
15:49 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
That becomes your proverb of how you live your life and how you
utilize that in your life and we're speaking, so I think, so
ethereal, and I want to kind of bring this down to like okay, I
might have a student who's come to me and said well, I spent
thousands and thousands of dollars on this demo and now everybody
tells me it's a piece of garbage and I guess I just didn't know or
I failed or that's it, that's why I'm not successful. So I always
try to tell people look, life is a learning journey, right, and
what sort of energy is positive or helpful? If you're going to sit
there and berate yourself for getting a demo that maybe some people
don't like, right, or that you don't like or doesn't serve you,
that energy is wasted on yourself, like nobody else really cares.
To, be quite honest, right, turn that, reframe it around, say I've
made an investment, I have now learned and know that maybe I wasn't
ready to make that demo.
16:38 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Maybe it's learning money for you. Maybe you had to learn that
Exactly that's your investment money for your business.
16:43 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Absolutely. So you turn that around and you learn, right, you go
get yourself a different coach. You learn until you feel because I
believe, right, I believe we all know and then say, well, I trusted
my coach. Well, I think there's also that inner voice, right, that
says I may be not ready, but I'm going to put my trust in my coach
and I get it. Guys, I get it. But also I think there's an inner
voice in you that says maybe I wasn't ready for that right, but my
coach says I am. And so you didn't listen to that voice? Right, you
don't know that you're lying to yourself, right, when you're saying
something doesn't feel, right, I don't feel ready.
17:17 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
That's the lie comes in, that's the pleasing, because you want to
please your coach, you want to please your whoever, and say are you
happy with me, are you proud of me? Did I do what you wanted me to
do? Yeah, right. And that's where you have to start saying okay,
they're my trusted advisor. I pay them for that, absolutely. But I
can't put them all in one basket?
17:38 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yes, exactly, instead of being completely angry and saying it's all
their fault, right, In reality. Right, you need to listen to that
voice that, hopefully, I mean maybe you did completely put all your
trust in them, but then again, now that you've learned right, now
that you've learned from it, now you know, maybe I won't put all my
trust in my coaches and I will take that little voice in my head
that said maybe you're not ready. Right, they said I was, but I
don't feel ready and I didn't tell them about it so that they could
reason with me and say no, really you are, or maybe you're not
right. That's just the demo readiness. Right, like, what about the
audition? What about the person that auditioned and didn't get the
gig?
18:21 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
There's so many lies that we can tell ourselves about this right.
Oh, we somehow always believe that voice.
18:24 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
We always listen to that voice and believe that voice, Right? Oh
well, all right.
18:31 - Intro (Announcement)
I voice. We always listen to that voice and believe that voice,
right?
18:31 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Oh well, all right, I did the audition and I must have sucked,
right, I sucked, so I didn't get the job. There's the lie. There's
the lie that you tell yourself Now. You don't know, right, you
don't know that you sucked.
18:34
I mean, maybe you do, maybe internally, you kind of know, oh, I
haven't really coached a lot, maybe I should get somebody else's
opinion to see, because I haven't developed an ear yet. So maybe
it's something that somebody else can help me with. Maybe I don't
suck, maybe I just need somebody else to give me some tips, or I
need some additional coaching, right, or I nailed it, and then I
heard the commercial and God, I can't believe they got hired Right.
So there's the lie. How did they get hired? You know what I mean,
and so how are you resolving that?
19:06 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Right, Right, I think the discipline to say, okay, I want to always
pay attention to the inner voice inside. But a very famous
neurosurgeon said this and I thought it was so brilliant I believe
it was David Amen, he's like on the speaking circuit as a
neurosurgeon. He said believe it or not, you don't have to believe
everything you think. And I was like whoa, astonishing, Because we
somehow think if we think it then it must be true. Yeah, agreed,
but we're forgetting all the immense biases, experiences, sort of
mental slurs that we go through in our life that help formulate
those thoughts. So that's not to say that you don't understand an
inner truth or have an inner voice that can't lead you in the right
direction. It's just to say you don't have to believe everything
you're thinking.
19:57 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, you can manifest. I'm a big believer in manif. Yeah, you can
manifest. I'm a big believer in manifesting. You can create. You
can create with your thoughts. You can re-envision, you can
reinvent, you can redirect. I absolutely believe that, with your
thoughts Right, like they are so, so powerful, and of course, that
audition that you didn't get right, and then you're like, oh, I
must be no good, don't believe that. Right, you're telling yourself
aloud and think here are all the possibilities that Ann and Lau
have said a hundred times in an audition demolition. There's many,
many reasons why people get the job or don't get the job right, and
not all of them are directly under your control. I mean absolutely.
So maybe you didn't suck, you are good and that's okay, and it's
okay that you didn't get the job right. So you audition, you forget
it, right, and ultimately you don't believe the lie, that you're
telling yourself that you're not good enough for it and whatever
you do, you must discipline yourself to not shed and forecast
everything you're thinking.
20:55 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
They call it oversharing, but it really is forecasting what exactly
is in your mind and you're doing that to purge yourself of guilt.
Oh yeah, oh, let's collect 500 for this hour. I'm telling you, this
is like good stuff. Don't purge on other people. Don't go through
that catharsis. That's a private journey for you, Because guess
what the casting director or the business person in front of you is
thinking why did you just say that? I don't see that at all. What's
happening? Are you okay? Like literally they're thinking, are you
okay? Because you're forecasting something onto me that I don't
even know what you're talking about Right Now? You and I are
coaches. We catch that stuff and we try to remedy that. But you do
it on the wrong people. You can never go back and make that
impression again on them because they'll always. I remember Barbara
Corcoran. I look up to her a lot as a mentor in business and she's
a more mature woman.
21:51
on Shark Tank if you ever watch Shark Tank, yeah absolutely she
says I always Rolodex in my mind, whether you agree with this or
not. I just thought it was very interesting the way she put this.
Whenever someone, especially a woman, breaks down crying in front
of me when they're pitching their product, I always kind of roll a
dex that in my mind that that's not someone I can work with. Now,
that's not to say that you can't cry. It's not to say you can't
feel emotion. You should feel real emotion and not hide that.
However, when you forecast and overshare those emotions with people
you don't have relationships with yet, they Rolodex you, they
compartmentalize you in a place where they say I don't know what
they're telling themselves.
22:30
I don't know what they're thinking and feeling, but it's not my
experience of them, so from a business standpoint it can be very
harmful.
22:37 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Well, that translates right into social media Just saying right
your responses, right Whether people respond like share or not,
right your response. Is somebody's going to Rolodex that response
in their brain and say I don't think I can work with that person
based upon what they just said. Happens every day, every moment of
the day.
22:58 - Intro (Announcement)
Yeah, all the time, all the time.
22:59 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
And so understand that as well. Right, and so if you are
oversharing, right Again, in a professional setting, especially,
like you said, I think the key is with people that you do not have
relationships with yet, right, People that do not know do not know
your perspective where that's coming from, right. And even if they
do know where that's coming from, where that's coming from right,
and even if they do know where that's coming from, they may Rolodex
it and say I don't think I can work with that person. Right, and I
get that, and we get that too as coaches oh yeah, oh, I can't work
with that person.
23:28 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
No, I can't work with that. And that's like you trying to find the
jury. That's the jury, that's the audience, that's the of people
that will agree with you on what you're saying. That's not the
place to do it Right, and it's not even an objective truth in any
way. It's just a whole bunch of people who may be agreeing with you
on whatever you're saying. So you have to be careful. You have to
like be careful in who you trust with your inner voice and with
your inner self.
23:56 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
So I'm going to make this educated guess that when I ask the
question, how do you know when you're lying to yourself? Right, I
think you have to start with. How do you know when you're lying to
yourself, when something is not necessarily going the way that you
want it to right? I think that's one telltale way to start really
looking inward and asking okay, so why are things not happening?
Why am I not getting the gig? Why am I not getting the gig? Why am
I not getting any business? Why am I not successful? Or why do I
feel like I'm not successful? Asking yourself those questions and
just sitting quiet in the moment and really thinking about what are
the steps to achieve success? Why are you not getting that
gig?
24:33
Well, to get the gig, certain factors have to take place. You have
to have talent right, but not always right. You have to have talent
right, but not always right. You have to have talent, you have to
be in the right demographic, you have to be in the head of the
casting director, which none of us are. So there's certain factors
that are beyond our control. And when that happens, we have to also
put in our head that there are certain factors beyond our control.
So maybe we didn't get the gig because we have no
control.
24:55
The daughter of a close friend. They gave the job to her, versus
they changed directions and went with a male instead of female, or
whatever. It is right. Understand that there are things beyond your
control and that's okay, rather than I am not good enough, right,
right, and taking things. Why am I not getting more work, right?
Why am I not getting more work?
25:14
Well, sit down and take a look at. How much coaching have you had,
right? How much training have you had? Are you as skilled as you
can be? Are you marketing yourself as much as you can be? Why, if
not, are you not marketing yourself, right? Well, you don't have
the know-how, you don't have the money to invest in a marketer. You
don't have the money, right. Why are these things happening? And
really sit down and just I would say, write it down. Right, write
it down. What are the things that you're not achieving, that you
want to achieve, and what are the steps that you need to get there,
or what are the conditions in which, when they're met, you will
have success in that or not success? And then really sit down and
ask yourself to be truthful right. How much of this is under your
control? How much of this is other people saying this is the way it
is and influencing your inner voice, or how much of it is your own
self-sabotage?
26:04 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Yeah, and what you're really talking about here, which is, I think,
the nugget here. The bottom line takeaway is hold yourself
accountable to finding your voice, listening to it and
understanding it right. So, for instance, if there's danger for
you, if there's an instinctive acknowledgement that you're making,
don't just ignore it and do it anyway. Don't just ignore it and
overlook it anyway. You oftentimes will go wrong when you do that
right, or when someone gives you feedback and you have to actively
listen and absorb that feedback, and they say 5, 6, 10, 15 times. I
don't know why you just said that. To me. It's not true or
accurate. You should stop doing that. Stop doing it Like you've got
to stop the behaviors.
26:50 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yes, now you go to external sources. Right, when you've listened to
your inner voice and your inner voice is not helpful, right, that's
when you turn to your accountability buddies, your trusted
colleagues.
27:01 - Intro (Announcement)
Or sabotaging.
27:02 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
yes, Right, your trusted colleagues, and you bounce that off of
them, and then that is what's going to help, hopefully, reframe
right. You're lying to yourself, right, and your inner voice that
can be lying to you or sabotaging you, whatever that is, wow. That
was deep. By the way, vaughn and I are not we are not in the
business of mental health, however. This is just based on our own
experiences, so, please, take what we say with a grain of
salt.
27:28
We're sharing our experiences to hopefully help you with yours,
because we are not therapists, so please keep that in mind, and
we're just here to share.
27:39 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
It's very true. And I have to say, if you're in business and
studying this kind of work over years and years and years, you'll
find that the more quality the script, the more quality the copy,
the more they have something in common with great writers, great
thinkers, great philosophers, great psychologists right? So we
don't need to be like a clinical psychologist to understand the
analysis of a line from Shakespeare. Like we can figure that out at
a certain point and say how does that connect to my life, my lived
experience, how does that connect to me uniquely as a person? Is
that part of my voice and I mean my inner voice and my mechanical
voice as well? Yeah Right, and that's what we call finding our
voice. Voice and my mechanical voice as well? Yeah Right, and
that's what we call finding our voice. Like finding your authentic
voice means like doing that work, doing that homework.
28:25 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Good stuff. Oh my gosh, Woo Woo. I'm tired now. My inner voice
needs a break. We need a latte after that, or something I know. All
right. Well, before my latte, I'm going to give a great big shout
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amazing.
28:46 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
I love you.
28:47 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
And my inner voice says I love Lau, I love Annie and I love Lau and
I love myself and I love my inner voice, even when it
misbehaves.
28:56 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
And we love all of you listening, and that's why we share these
inner thoughts.
28:59 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yes, Thank you guys. You have an amazing week and we will see you
next week. Bye.
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