Aug 20, 2024
Anne welcomes the talented Tawny Platis, an accomplished voice actor and viral content creator. Tawny shares her compelling story, from her early days in childhood acting to launching a successful retail business at just 18, and ultimately thriving in the competitive voiceover industry. Their conversation unearths the business behind content creation and the effort required to engage audiences effectively. The BOSSes insights reveal the importance of passion and joy in crafting content that resonates, whether it's through comedy or informative storytelling. Tawny recounts her own path to becoming a viral sensation and shares how blending various skills and experiences can lead to a fulfilling and impactful career. Tawny shares practical tips for newcomers, from adapting one's voice for various professional settings to building a solid business foundation.
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00:21 - Intro (Announcement)
It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level.
These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being
utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business
like a boss a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne
Ganguzza.
00:40 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Hey, hey, everyone. Welcome to the VO Boss Podcast. I'm your host,
Anne Ganguzza, and I am so very excited to have with me in the
studio special guest voice actor and boss viral content creator,
tawny Plattis, packard, raid, shadow Legends, raycon Headphones and
a billion more Too many for me to read. She's also currently the
voice of Harmony's mom in the House on the Outland series by Make
Animations and is going to play Sophie Bott in the upcoming Garbage
People film now streaming on Tubi Tawny yay, you're here
Finally.
01:23 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
It was a long time coming. I'm so happy to be here.
01:26 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Well, thank you so, so much for taking a piece of your busy day and
talking with us. Gosh, I've been following you for a long time and,
I think, to a lot of people in the industry. All of a sudden
they're like hey, have you seen this girl with this? Is it the 10
different styles of voiceover? Which is where I? That's the big
one, that's the big one, right? Have you seen this girl? I'm like
gosh, she's amazing and I'm like I've known that for many years. So
perhaps you could take our bosses, who are not as familiar with you
as I am and, by the way, I've been a fan of yours and I've watched
you like rebrand, like through my eyes, and we could have five
episodes talking about what a boss you are. But why don't you tell
our bosses a little bit about your journey into voiceover and your
career as it stands today?
02:13 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
Yeah, I actually got my first voiceover job when I was six years
old for a local radio station in San Diego, but my first on-camera
role was for a baby blanket ad, also local to San Diego, when I was
about four months old. So I've been doing this for a lot of decades
now and kept doing that, you know, local child actor type of stuff
until I turned 18. And then I started a retail store because I
think we both know at this point, you know, the acting biz is very
volatile.
02:41
So I was like I need to make sure I have like a backup plan just in
case. This doesn't work out. So my backup plan was to start a
retail business. Funny enough, what were you retailing? Just out of
curiosity, if you're familiar with like consignment type stores
like Buffalo Exchange, I did that, but it was like baby and
maternity stuff.
02:58 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Oh, wow, I love that. And was that just something you decided to do
on your own Kind of?
03:03 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
I had worked retail. I started working retail when I was like 15,
16, I want to say and I had a knack for it. I was pretty good at
sales and I was like I think I could open a store, I think I could
do this. I love that. So I was 18 and I did that my senior year of
high school. I started doing that. Everybody else was getting ready
to go to college and I was opening a store in the neighborhood over
to mine and I built it up. It was just me, one other person from
this little 500 square foot hole in the wall spot over two years to
a 5,000 square foot warehouse type of store and it had 10 to 15
employees. And our biggest year, we did a little under a million
dollars in sales.
03:40
So I went from doing like $150 a day in sales to doing that and
being able to be financially independent by the time I was
23.
03:49 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
So yeah, that's fantastic. Now, that's one part of your story I was
not familiar with and that's fantastic. At a young age, the
entrepreneur comes out, the boss entrepreneur. So I can only
imagine that that really helped give you a great foundation for
running your own voice acting business. I feel like you're so
multifaceted that you're not just a voice actor. Right, you're an
empire, and a lot of that empire and I want to kind of get right
into it, because I know there's so many people that are like how
did you do it? How did you become viral? Because that is so elusive
to many people out there. So talk to us about the foundations in
your business right in your retail business that helped you in
evolving and growing in voiceover and how you've come to really not
just be a voiceover actor but like, literally, you are a content
creator, an influencer.
04:41 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
Yeah, influencer that word? Yeah, I am though.
04:45 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, but you are, I mean you probably are sick of hearing that,
but in reality you really are. I mean you've got the reach out
there to really influence a lot of people and affect them. And I
know from people who've come to me I'm like have you seen that
girl? I mean of course I know that girl, she's super talented. But
yeah, talk to the experience of your retail years and how it helped
you.
05:05 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
I think that is what has helped me the most, to be completely
transparent, being able to also have that background with coming
from a family that owned businesses, like for generations, you
know, and it was all very much like very squarely middle class
businesses too. That's another thing is like it definitely wasn't
something where, like I came from, a lot of wealth or
anything.
05:26
Everybody has always been right smack dab in the middle, but the
privilege that I had from that was knowing how to run a business
and know how to go about using LegalZoom just to start an LLC, and
like knowing how to find the information that I needed to do what I
wanted to do, and that's a huge leg up, and I often tell people
that do ask me about voice acting so what do I need to do? What
kind of agents do I need to pursue, what accents, what microphone
do I need? And I'm like, like, but honestly, get a business plan,
like I was like learn business.
05:57 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I love that. I love that.
05:59 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
Yeah right.
05:59 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Because if people don't know who you are and can't find you, they
can't hire you right as a business.
06:05 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
And get good at sales. That's another thing too is like that has
always been, I think really a huge part that gets overlooked in
what we do. Like we have people that take all these classes and
they're so into the microphone. What microphone do I need? What
microphone do you have? Because that's the missing piece of the
puzzle. I need to get the microphone, and it really isn't. You
know, like that's the easiest part is like getting your sound
studio, your recording space, set up. That part's easy. You pay
some buddy $100, $200. They do a sample for you, they get you all
set up and then you're good to go.
06:34
How are you finding work? How are you finding jobs? And then are
you staying consistent with this? I can't tell people enough that,
like there are admittedly so many incredibly talented voice actors
out there who send me their stuff and I'm like you're better than I
am and they don't do anything with it because they don't know how
to sell, they don't know how to run a business. You know, which is
kind of an unfortunate part about being an artist and a creative is
like we are so focused on that, which is wonderful, but the
reality, the unfortunate reality is like.
07:03
We have to know how to turn that into a business and be able to
boss ourselves, because we don't have somebody telling us what to
do. So learn how to run a business. That's the biggest piece of
advice to doing well in this industry is being able to manage
yourself and learning how to sell your product, which is your
voice.
07:24 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
So then let me ask you I assume that your content creation, even
though sometimes it seems to have nothing to do with voice,
although there's a lot of videos that you've done that talk about
voiceover you've also done a lot of videos that don't necessarily
talk about voiceover.
07:37
I mean, you did one video, actually, which I really loved, on
synthetic voices, and I was like, where does this woman come from?
Because, look, as you know, with the VO Boss podcast and I say this
all the time literally for about a year I did extensive interviews
with CEOs of AI companies and talking about synthetic voices and
talking about ethical practices and all that stuff, and you came
out with a video that was so in depth about your thoughts and your
take on it, which I was just I don't know where this girl comes
from I was just so, so impressed with that. I had to tell you that,
as a fangirl and, doing the work that I've done and studying it, I
thought that that was an amazing video. So your content is not just
about the 10 voices of voiceover. So talk about how the type of
content that you create, how does that help you to
market?
08:26 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
I love that. You asked that. So the way that that helps me to
market is I'm talking about things that are relevant right now, and
so much of how I figured that out is what made me, I think,
successful in retail as well, which is very much like analytics
driven. It's observational. I spend hours, you know, researching
what's trending, what are people talking about, how are people
moving, how are successful people who are doing what I'm doing?
What are they doing? And then to juxtapose that, what is nobody
doing either, you know, and how do I combine those things? So it's
like I'm filling a need that's not being filled here, but am I
doing it in a way that I have seen as proven successful? Like when
I had my retail store it was 2009, so cut me some slack here but
like I was obsessed with Mark Zuckerberg and what he was doing. You
know, I'm like how is he figuring this out? How is he doing all
this? Like how? And then Apple I was obsessed with Apple. Like how
is Apple dominating? Like this, like, how is this so?
09:21
relevant dominating the market?
09:23
yeah, now we know what we know, um, you know, but that has
continued in my career with voice acting, with content creation.
You know how are people editing their videos, so it's not like
copying, like verbatim what somebody's doing, but it's like not
doing the millennial pause, for instance, like that's like such a
huge faux pas when you're creating content. It's like setting up
your camera and then, like you know, right then, like you know,
like it's recording, and you leave this big old gap in the
beginning to make sure you're recording. It's quick edits, it's
speaking quickly and then the topics that you know are trending
right now. So so much of I think what goes into that is being very
aware of trends, and I say the same thing with voiceover.
10:02
It's something I have noticed twice now in my career is like the
way that I market in content creation is very similar to like what
I do in voiceover, in the sense of I'm very much obsessed with the
trends and analytics and tracking all of that, and I have noticed
that a couple of times in my career now in voiceover, where we've
had these big shifts in style and people are often blindsided and I
can usually tell those are the voice actors that have stopped
watching commercials.
10:30
They don't take that time every day to go on iSpot TV or Hulu or
YouTube or just wherever you find commercials and to watch them and
to listen like, okay, who's getting cast what's popular right now?
And we had that shift from the announcer read in the 90s and the
1000s to conversational, you know in the 10s. And now we're
detached conversational, like with that Poppy commercial in the
Super Bowl, and I'm seeing that with voice actors. They're like
what does detached conversational mean? What is this? You know, and
I'm like I hear it all the time, you know. So I think that, like
making sure that you are staying just up to date with everything
that's going on, and that means taking those classes, being
involved in the community. That's going to ensure that you stay
relevant.
11:10 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, and also for those people that are doing non-broadcast work
like e-learning and corporate narration, it's also important to see
what is corporate narration. I have so many people that don't
really understand what corporate narration is, and within the word
corporate narration is the word corporate. Okay, companies are
formed for a reason right To sell. So in corporate narration your
focus is a sell. Now it's a longer style, it's a longer format
than, let's say, a commercial. So your sell is very nuanced and
guess you know what? It's not just information delivery, there's a
sell.
11:43
You have to connect and you have to have a back and forth in order
to connect with your listener and that becomes a
conversation.
11:49
And so if I say I want it conversational, it doesn't mean I want it
casual and I may not want it detached if we're talking about
corporate, because in reality, for corporate, you're an authority,
you know what you're talking about and you've got a long time to
talk about it, so you may not be detached unless you're shooting
for a specific market.
12:06
So I love the fact that you talk about market research, because
anybody that goes and all of you bosses out there can go and do
research on okay, what's trending in corporate narration? What's
trending in e-learning. There's lots of externally facing
e-learning modules out there as well, and the one thing that people
say is that e-learning is going to get taken up by synthetic
voices. But I say that most people that really want a connected
teacher and student connection are not going to go that way, and
that's the way it should have been all along. But we ended up
reading our material like robots and that's kind of why the first
thing people think is that, oh yeah, synthetic voices are going to
take that over. So the people who thought that was okay, the buyers
are going to continue to think that's okay and maybe have a
synthetic voice. But those who want a person that can connect
right, no matter what genre, they're going to hire that
human.
12:58 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
I hope so. That's my thoughts on it.
13:00 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
That's my thoughts on it until, ultimately, our ears become attuned
to maybe a different sound. But I love the market research and I
love the fact that you kept the word conversational in there,
because I don't want to disband the word conversational, because
conversation indicates that you've got a back and forth Right. So
let's talk about content. In terms of being a boss and creating
content, what percentage of your day is thinking of content,
creating content? What does it take to create great content? And is
there a secret to having that content go viral? Of course,
everybody wants to know the secret, that kind of thing.
13:32 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
I'm so glad you asked that too, because everybody's like what's
your secret to going viral? From my standpoint as somebody who does
this, I don't think there is a secret beyond the secret being like
you got to be in the right place at the right time.
13:45
So often which I don't think people like to hear, because that's
very scary that there is a luck component to everything we do, and
that doesn't mean it's only luck.
13:56
That means you have to be really good at what you do, you have to
work really hard, and then you also have to get lucky.
14:00
And I think that's terrifying to people, as they're like so I can
do everything right and it still won't happen, and I'm like, yeah,
so much of it is the right place at the right time, and then it
taking time to.
14:11
You know, like I've been doing this for years, yes, and then I am,
within the last year or so, I'm at the point where it's like I
pretty much just need to upload a video every day, couple days, few
days, whatever it is. I pretty much just get emails at this point
in my inbox that are like hey, we'd like to hire you for XYZ, and
I'm very grateful to be in that position to where it's like that's
pretty much all the marketing I really need to do, unless I'm after
something really cool and specific. Like I'm like I want to do
more, like big animation now, so I'm going to reach out to some
people, but like now it's like I'm able to like make a living just
posting that content and having people find me as a voice actor and
hire me for these jobs, and it has taken, you know, literally
decades to get to that point of being able to be your overnight
success took decades right.
14:57
Yeah, so yes.
14:59 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
And the viral thing was the luck component of it being in the right
part at the right time. But I mean, you've been posting videos for
gosh since I've been following you, which is years, and you had, I
think, in the beginning and I always thought that this was such a
tough shtick, is you were comedy. I mean, a lot of what you do has
a comedy element to it. Do you think that that has something to do
with, let's say, your success in terms of being viral or just
having people love your videos?
15:26 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
I do. I think that you have to choose one of two things when it
comes to doing content creation, or both things. You have to
entertain or you have to educate. Yes, I agree, and you know, if
you're like me and you don't have a degree, you're not an expert in
anything. You can't be like look, I have the piece of paper that
says I'm smart. Yeah, you know, you just went right out of high
school into the working world. You have to entertain, you know, or
you have to establish yourself so much that you do become an expert
in something. And again, that takes time just the amount of years
you've been doing it. So I was like okay, I don't have the piece of
paper saying I'm an authority to speak on something, so I guess I
have to be entertaining. And I think that there's a couple ways you
can do that, and one of the ways is through making people laugh.
You know, and I think that's a big draw to something. It's like oh,
I like this content because it makes me laugh.
16:13 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Everybody likes to laugh, so that's where that really came from was
just not being educated enough to make educational content to me,
since I've been following you with the comedy and then also with
your experience in retail and having that, I feel like you took on
the challenge and you loved it, and so now you've got this really
cool mix of. I know maybe you don't want to be called an
influencer, but in reality when now people are asking you to create
content and sell right and then also use your voice right and
you're on camera, so I feel like it just took every piece of you
that you've maybe been passionate about or loved. Listen to me, I'm
analyzing you right now and it just brought it together into this
beautiful like. This is where you are today, unless, of course, it
doesn't bring you joy, but I kind of feel like it might. I don't
know. I feel like you like what you do. I do like what I
do.
17:05 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
I'm very, very lucky that I get to do this and I'm very lucky that
I was born into a certain situation where it was truly the perfect
storm, where it was like having that family that like could teach
me how to run a business. Right, right and like you know, for
better or for worse, being put into acting as an infant and doing
that for 30 some odd years. I'm extremely lucky in that way that,
like I really did have kind of all of that stuff that allowed this
to happen.
17:32 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, it's like all the pieces together into like where you are
today just seem to be like it's all the pieces that you're amazing
at and that have just come together to work well for you. I always
tell bosses that for me it's worked out to kind of follow where my
joys and passions are, because the energy that I'm putting out
really is what people can connect to. And that is where I think
success comes, and it doesn't necessarily have to be success just
financially. It can just be success in like I've created some
really great content that has changed people's lives and you have
certainly done that. And that, see, I'm going to get all choked up
because I know what that's like.
18:09
Do you know what I mean? I'm not saying that I'm viral, but as a
teacher, right, my mission and my joy is to make an impact right
and to really help people or make them smile when they're down or,
you know, inspire them. And you, I mean I mean you've done that and
see, I get, I get. I'm like emotional. I get emotional because I
just love that. I love when people can do that and they do do that
and they realize it and that seems to be like their mission to
really just help and inspire and entertain and make people smile.
So Thank you for that.
18:41 - Intro (Announcement)
Thank you for that.
18:42 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
And now I'm going to ask you do you miss any one part of it more
than the other? Do you miss, like on-camera acting, or like, do you
feel like in the future you might want to do, like, maybe more of
that, or maybe you want to open a new store? Where are you going
next? I mean, what's up next?
18:58 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
for you, it will never be retail again. I will live on the streets
before I ever do retail again. Retail is so tough, oh
gosh.
19:04 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
What about online retail? Though you don't have the inventory, you
don't necessarily have the brick and mortar.
19:09 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
That's the problem.
19:10 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
No, I mean, you don't have the brick and mortar.
19:12 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
Let's put that right, I always make this joke that I'm like you
know, retail is unhealthy. When you go from retail to going to
entertainment and go, people are so nice and like encouraging,
encouraging, and this is so healthy for me, it's so healthy being
in entertainment, you know, like that's really an indicator of how
horrendous like working with like retail and customer service and
with the public, like that that's so funny that you say that,
because I remember when I got married, my in-laws owned a wedding,
a bridal shop, and I was like you know, I think this could be a fun
thing.
19:40 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
They're like oh God, no fun thing.
19:42 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
They're like oh God, no, you don't want to go. No, you don't want
to go. Oh, I've worked bridal.
19:44 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Oh, I've worked, bridal, you don't want to go bridal and God
forbid, you don't want to go bridal retail.
19:46 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
And I'm like, oh okay, I've worked bridal and I've worked with
parents and I don't care for either of those demographics. You know
I get you there.
19:56 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
So let me ask you a question in terms coaching, voiceover coaching
Tell us a little bit about that.
20:04 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
Sure, yeah, I do business coaching for voiceover. That is like kind
of my main thing. And then I do the surrounding stuff around that.
So, like I do like voiceover 101, which is like very like step one
through a million of like how to go, and specifically for that
person, when it comes to like private coaching, I'm like, okay,
what are your goals, what is it you want to do?
20:28
And then what's your background you know, and then we can talk
about like how to get from point A to point B and then also like my
opinion on kind of like what you should do, let's get you a
voiceover evaluation, kind of get an idea of like how much coaching
you're going to need here roughly. And then I also, you know, do
the specialty coaching, where it's stuff that I particularly have
mastery in. So I teach stuff like you know, the content creation
that I've been doing for a lot of years, the business side of
things been doing business for a lot of years and then the areas of
voice acting where I predominantly work, which is a lot of
corporate e-learning and then commercial. I don't think it's really
ethical to teach voiceover stuff that you don't have like at least
10 years of experience in, so yeah audiobooks is not one of those
things I teach just for that reason.
21:07
I'm like audiobooks. I'm still newer in that game. So, yeah, that
is what I do coach and I have pre-recorded classes that are more
generic. So it's more like this is all the ins and outs of the
industry as of the beginning of 2024. So that's always a great
option for people if they're looking for something that is like
more. Let me just hear 130 plus minutes of like what the voiceover
industry is and how to like kind of go about it. That's always
something that is really really helpful, I have found, for people.
But, yeah, I do that kind of coaching and typically with my private
sessions, I try to only keep a few people that.
21:42
I work with at a time so I can really give them the time that I do
have, because that's another important thing. If you're teaching
voiceover, I think you should be working in voiceover and I am
booked every day, agreed, agreed.
21:54 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I know myself, I'm scheduled to the max because I do voiceover and
I coach and I produce demos and I do a couple other things. I do
this podcast, so it is every minute of the day is scheduled for me,
which I assume is exactly the same for you. So, absolutely, that's
wonderful. So, in terms of the future, where do you see yourself in
the future?
22:12 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
Honestly, I have no idea and I think that that is because I very
much follow where my career is going at the time, where the leads
are, and I'm very open to what that could be. I didn't think I'd be
here Like I oftentimes tell people, particularly in with what got
me into voice acting full-time. I never thought that was going to
be where I ended up. I went into corporate and I was like this
voice Because like I pitch my voice lower so I sound like an adult,
but like I have a very high pitch, like I don't usually show people
my natural voice, but like my natural voice is really up here, like
when I talk to people, but I sound like a baby. So I'm like always
like sound like an adult and like one of my teachers told me that
in high school she was like you need to do something about your
voice.
22:54 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Oh, interesting, yeah, otherwise nobody's going to take you
seriously.
22:58 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
And I was thinking like, even with this being my pretend speaking
voice. I still feel like it's pretty high. So it was like nobody's
going to hire me for corporate. And then somebody found me for
corporate and that's where I ended up and I do a lot of that kind
of e-learning corporate stuff in San Diego that's so
interesting.
23:17 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
So now, when you're completely relaxed, does your voice, do you let
your voice go back up, or is it something you've just kind of
muscle memory trained yourself to kind of just speak in a
particular pitch?
23:25 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
It's very muscle memory. The only time when that does come out is
when I am really comfortable and relaxed. So, like you know, if my
voice starts going up, like that, like that's how you know I'm like
really comfy with you.
23:37
So if I start talking to you like this, that's how you know that
we're really tight, so pretty much like my roommate, my best
friends, like family, like they will hear that one, but even with
them it usually like it'll take a few minutes or a drink to like a
drink or two, and then it comes back. Yeah, I got you, I got
you.
23:57 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Wow. Well, what would be your best tip for those bosses just
starting out in the industry?
24:03 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
My best tip business class, like from somebody who teaches
business, like and general business, is great too. I think it
applies, I think retail applies so heavily to voice acting funny
enough or maybe not so funny, but I think like just that is such an
oversight. You know so much of voiceover you can learn very
quickly, and then the rest of it is practice, which there's no
rushing, there's no rushing practice. You know, some of us have, I
think, kind of more of an inclination similar to like learning
piano, where like you have that friend.
24:32
that just it makes sense to them and it doesn't make sense to you
and you have to practice more and that's just is what it is. But I
don't feel like there's enough emphasis put on the business and the
sales side of what we do. So, like that's, my biggest advice is
like get those classes, do your research before you pay for
anything like ask around, make sure you take your time so you find
somebody who's reputable. I think we both know that's another big
issue in our industry. So, yeah, I think that is probably the best
piece of advice I could give to people who are starting out in
this.
25:04 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Well, that's great advice. So how can bosses get in touch with you
if they would like to find out more and overwork with?
25:10 - Tawny Platis (Guest)
you? Yeah, my website is tawnyvoicecom and I have all my contact
information there. Depending on how you want to get in touch with
me, there's a lot of different ways, awesome.
25:20 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Well, thank you so much. Oh my gosh, I could talk to you for
another hour or so, and then maybe we'll be at that level where
you're talking with your real voice to me. But anyways, thank you
so much. We so appreciate the words of wisdom that you've given to
us Bosses. I'm going to give a great big shout out to our sponsor,
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at IPDTLcom. Tani, you're the best. Thank you so much.
25:45
Thank you, Bosses have a great week and we'll see you next week.
Bye.
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