Jan 7, 2025
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01:09 - Intro (Announcement)
It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level.
These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being
utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business
like a boss a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne
Ganguza.
01:28 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Hey, hey, everyone. Welcome to the VO Boss Podcast and the Boss
Superpower Series. I'm your host, nn Ganguza, and I'm here with the
one and only Lala Pitas.
01:40 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Hey, annie, back again. Happy 2025, and yet another year. Here we
are.
01:46
How, many years, how many?
01:48 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
years Lau. It's been years.
01:49 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
A decade, I don't know 20?. I feel like you know, we came out of
the womb and we knew each other.
01:55 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I don't know.
01:56 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
It feels like forever, but it is over two years now.
01:59 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I think it's two and a half, at least, almost Two, and a half At
least, almost, if not more, if not three Lau.
02:03
I'm telling you, I am manifesting that 2025 is going to be my best
year ever, and I say that because we've come off of a tough year,
not just a tough year necessarily for your business, but just a
tough year, I think, in general for everyone, mentally, physically.
I mean. It's just been a tough, tough, tough year of 2024. So I am
ready for 2025, despite whatever may happen in the world, I feel
like with this political climate, I want this to be the best year
ever for my business, and so I had a couple of podcast episodes and
we do this all the time right End of year assessment how are we
going to make this year the best? But I really want to stretch Lau
and talk about how we can go beyond the typical. Well, let's write
our goals down right and let's do this for the year.
02:52
Let's talk about how we can really, I think, manifest success and
stretch ourselves out to be the absolute best that we can be, and
to be mindfully and skillfully healthy for 2025.
03:04 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Stretching. That's my thing. I love stretching, and when I say
stretching I mean really kind of motivating our folks to just move
in directions that are uncomfortable, that you may not have
experienced before. Those are the best, where you have no idea what
the outcome is. Because the truth is, you know, in our profession
we get seasoned. After a while we kind of know what to expect. We
know kind of the behaviors of clients. We get to know that right.
But we always want to refresh, we want to feng shui the spirit. How
do we do it? Put ourselves in an environment that we're not used
to. That's going to help us grow, and as a talent, as a person, as
a business entrepreneur, what could that mean? Well, some examples
I like to give. Why not take a fencing class? Why not get into a
class where you're doing mime and you're not talking at all? I love
that?
03:58 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
How do?
03:58 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
you communicate through your body, through your mind, through your
spirit, without the aid of the copy of the script. This is all
going to be tools in the toolkit that you're going to pull when you
get back in your booth and say, wow, how did I feel when I was
locked into my body, how do I?
04:16 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
unlock. You know what. I think I love that, but I think, before we
figure out how we're going to stretch right, let's sage the space,
so to speak right. Let's sage the space, so to speak. Right. Let's
sage the space, let's clear the space right. And what are some
things we can do to kind of clear away all the? I like to say clear
away what was last year and now? How are we going to start fresh?
How are we going to start new? How are we going to sage our space,
and I mean physically? You could I love sage, I'm a big sage
burner. I like to sage it to create new energy. But that saging
right could be. Maybe you decide to take up a little bit of
meditation, a little bit of breathing exercises. I know that,
stretching yourself mindfully, but also physically as well. I
started taking Pilates last year and I'll tell you what I feel
great, and I do it early in the morning.
05:08 - Intro (Announcement)
So, as a matter of fact, this morning I was at 6.30 am
class.
05:09 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Wow, Discipline. I love that so I can start my day right. I do a
6.30 and a 7.30 back to back and I absolutely love the way it makes
me feel in the mornings. There's a lot of just default. There's
breathing in there, right, and we talk as voice actors how
important breathing is. And breathing is amazing. I mean, first of
all, we breathe every day, but like focused, right, conscious, like
breathing exercises which by default happened in my Pilates class,
really helped me to expel the negative energy and take in the new
energy and really helped me to feel more balanced, more focused,
brings down my blood pressure and you know, what's so funny is I've
learned to breathe so well that literally it becomes this
challenge. Well, you know that I still go see my doctor, my
oncologist, all the time and they're always taking my blood
pressure right, so for a while there my blood pressure was high and
they prescribed medicine for me, right.
05:56
And so ever since I was you know, I got myself a little bit
healthier. Thankfully, my blood pressure is actually a little bit
on the lower side, but I also take my blood pressure every single
day right Just to make sure I'm on top. I have learned how to
breathe so that I can lower my blood pressure. Like it's insane.
And in my little Peloton classes too, you can actually see your
heart rate and so if you do active breathing right, you can see how
it brings down your heart rate. You can see how it brings down your
heart rate. So I think staging the space, so to speak, or
physically do it, but also stage the space. Take some time in the
morning for meditation and breathing to get you in the right head
space and physical space for a great day ahead and a great year
ahead. Oh, I love all of that.
06:38 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
And you know we've got to get out of that fight or flight,
breathing yeah, which, the truth is, all of us do it. I mean
because we're running around, we're running all over the map and
we'll go into the what we call the upper thoracic breath, the
clavicular breath. That's our throat, our chest, whatever Can we
live, of course? Can we have a great life, definitely. Is it
effective for speaking? Nope, it isn't. And that's our gift, that's
our craft, that's our job is to speak for a living.
07:06
So we want to move that down into the diaphragm and everything
you're doing, annie, is just a gift to be able to do that. And it
harkens back to me when I was a young kid in college studying
theater, that some of my professors would use this, saying They'd
say leave your trash at the door when you walk in the studio. Leave
it there, don't bring it in with you. That's your emotional stuff
that you're bringing in. I'll give you new stuff to deal with and
don't worry, don't worry, when you leave, it'll be there for you to
pick up and take with you. I'll give you new stuff, I'll give you
new stuff.
07:37 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Don't worry, I'll give you new stuff to deal with right Unless
you're using it right for the scene ahead right. I mean, take it
through the door if you need it. But a lot of times that baggage
right it's not always. I'm going to say 99% of the time I'm going
to say maybe that's not necessary for voice acting, unless you're
playing a role that calls for that.
07:57 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Right, right. I think that if you're going to use it as a reservoir
of emotion, to call upon, it has to be compartmentalized, it has to
be disciplined and dealt with. It can't just be dumping, it can't
be unloading your day or unloading your life in the space because
it's number one, it's not professional or appropriate, but, number
two, it doesn't feel good, it doesn't make you a cleansed breath
performer, which is where we want to go. We want to go to a full
sort of centered, grounded place of where the breath is coming
from. So I love that. I love that. No one loves sage more than me.
I actually named my son Sage, oh yeah, well, there you go I adore
sage.
08:38 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I think it's really important to just sage out your space Totally,
totally cleansing.
08:44 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Are we ready for some how-tos yet, annie? Yeah, sure, let's go,
let's do it. I'm going to lay one on the friends. That is really
unexpected, but from an actor's point of view it's very elevated
technique. And look into it and go online and look it up. It's
called Rasa Boxes, something you're never going to hear in
voiceover. It's an elevated boxes on the floor made of tape,
literal boxes. The actor steps into the box and becomes an emotion
in that box and it's very specific and it's very much a deep dive
and intense and when they step out of the box they immediately lose
that tone, immediately 100% cleanse themselves of that emotion.
Think about that. The crossover to me is when you're doing like
audiobook or you're doing character work, you're playing 10
different characters. You don't want any bleed of sound, right,
absolutely Well, we don't want any bleed of spirit. Sure, we want
to know that if you're enraged, you're the witch that's enraged,
that you step into the box where you're the peaceful fairy and
there's no bleed from one box to another.
09:59 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
But can you evolve that emotion? Can you be the fairy that is maybe
angry to begin with and then becomes cleansed of that anger?
Somehow Can you have one foot in one box and one foot in another
and play that way. You know why.
10:15 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
I love you so much Because you're brilliant and you're always 10
steps ahead. You just single-handedly skipped over two years of MFA
graduate work because skip a year or two and you're going to start
melding and shaping and mixing the boxes together. But the point is
it's intentional. Yes, yes, it mixing the boxes together. But the
point is it's intentional, it's a choice. It doesn't just happen
because I can't control myself and my output. I love
that.
10:41 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I love that because when I'm teaching acting for narration one of
my classes that I've taught in multiple places I talk about how
your emotion can evolve from the start of the sentence into the end
of the sentence, and that requires control and it requires, it does
require focus, a lot of focus, in order to intentionally go from
one emotion to another, to add that interest and that texture and
that storyline.
11:05 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
That's great, yes, and this is a physical, if you will, a physical
incarnation of that not just internal but it's actually physical,
so you can like.
11:14
We used to do as little kids play. What do we call it? Hopscotch?
We used to go from box to box. You're literally going box to box
and we're doing that in our life too. We're going from script to
script, character to character, intention to intention, but it
defines it. I think that's where the stretch comes. How do I
stretch the ability of going 100% deep dive immediately and then
pulling out of that immediately? It reminds me of a professional
ball player. So if you're like a baseball player, someone who's
sitting on the bench but they are not warming up, they are 100%
ready to jump in the game and go. Is there a script Lau or is it
just it's improv? Well, I mean, the experiment of it is all improv,
and then you can install that into your scripts so that you know
exactly what the boxes are. So there's no sitting on the bench kind
of saying, oh, I'm going to warm myself up into it, I'm going to
figure it out as I go. It's either you're 100% committed to it or
you're 100% out of it. I love it.
12:15 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I think right now I look at, I'm looking at boxes right now. I
think we can play this not just physically, but I love the physical
aspect of it.
12:21 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
It's a cool thing. We can play it On Zoom.
12:23 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
We can do it we can play it on Zoom too, because maybe Anne is the
angry box right, and maybe Lau is the love box Right, if you think
about it, and then we could just like okay, improv right, there we
go. And so I'm not angry right now. But see, that would be tough
for me, right? I've got to like work. I'm gonna have to work on
that, because I don't like to be angry in my real life.
12:40 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
But here's the thing you learn as an actor. You're not just as a
voiceover talent, you're not just being that or becoming that.
You're playing an action based on a situation, yeah Right. So it's
your job to figure out what's the situation.
12:57 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Oh yeah, as we say, who are you talking to, right? What's going on?
That is so important again, because we talk about, like, how are we
evolving as successful businesses with digital disruption and AI
and increasing like size of the industry, and how do we compete
while we become the actor right that can evolve and meld with
whatever we're being asked to do, and a lot of times, I'll ask
people to create that scene in which the words on the page will
make sense and will allow you to connect with those words in a
meaningful way. And so that's where a lot of times, my students
will be like but wait, they're like oh, now I'm asking them to
think and it's like but this is hard and I'm like it is Like you
know, if it were easy we'd all be voice actors making millions of
dollars.
13:40
But even then that would be kind of cool.
13:42 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
But yes, it's also the commitment in the relationship. So I think
that's what makes it hard is like you don't realize you're making a
commitment to a relationship immediately, without the intellect or
analysis that we want to take to be safe. Right, kids are great at
that. If kids played Rasa Boxes as a game, they'd jump right in and
be the evil queen. They'd jump right in and be the fairy princess,
because they understand it from an emotional EQ, emotional quotient
way.
14:12
Yeah yeah, yeah. And so we're so intellectual these days, which is
fabulous. We want to be able to analyze our script, of course, but
we miss the part where we're connecting our mind to our feet, to
our center, to our heart, to the ground. Right, it's actually quite
Native American in a lot of ways. When you look at it, it's very
soulful, it's very spiritual, it's very grounded to not only the
spirits above us, the gods above us, but also the nature, the
ground, the trees, the roots.
14:43 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Love it. I love it. I think we should have like a Zoom class on
that. I think we should.
14:47 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
We should have a Zoom class maybe during our audition demolition.
That could be fun. That could be a ton of fun.
14:53 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
It is fun, it's hard in a good way, yeah.
14:56 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
And so what's the name of that again for our bosses out there that
want to jot that down yeah, the name of the technique is called
RASA R-A-S-A boxes, rasa boxes you should really look it up, and
it's a sort of international kind of methodology that's used by
actors of all cultural backgrounds to reach their characters deeply
and quickly.
15:19 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Right, yeah, Deeply and quickly. Now that's the thing, because I've
got a lot of students who they're like but this takes so much time
and I said honestly, like, if you think about it, like how much
time did that really take? Ten minutes, Did I just work with you
for ten minutes on it? I mean, it's just one of those things where
I asked you, okay, what's that moment before, right? And so, what
is that scene? Why are you even saying these words? What's the
purpose? All right, so I love that. So we've got we're saging,
right, we're saging, we're cleansing and we're meditating, we're
breathing, and now we've got something that's helping us to stretch
outside of our boxes, or in the boxes, so to speak, for the acting
technique that we just talked about. What else is there Lau out
there that can help us?
15:57 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Well, I think you and I practice this all the time, subconsciously
we do, and that is the grounding, and there's many techniques for
grounding. But you need to ground yourself In the acting world. We
call it sinking in. We can tell if you're not sinking in because
you're floating.
16:13
you're somewhere floating, we can hear you processing the material
still yes yes, you're not grounded, you're not centered, you're not
sinking in, and there's different ways to do that. Sometimes people
will want a stone, a crystal, a liquid, something that's warm, that
is with them and touching them and around them. That helps them
ground their spirit. Sometimes it's just a mental focus, like
athletes may do. They may visualize and say I'm grounding myself to
the ground.
16:44 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Now, that's a physical, that's what I like, that I'm getting, that
this is physical and I use this. Actually, laura, I did steal this
from you and my students because I say grab your heart right. Yes,
touch your heart because then it's going to help to connect you
with those words in a meaningful way, right.
17:01
Yes and I believe that that will help to ground you as well, like
literally. I mean, of course I've got objects in my studio that I
can touch, I can feel I can connect to, but of course, since I'm
looking at the script right, I have to be careful because I don't
want to look away from the script, because I might drop a word or
two. But I love like just grab yourself that kind of like just kind
of connection.
17:22 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Yeah, it's also prep. You can stop your session and do it at any
time, but it should be a prep for you, so that you're not going
into it cold and expecting yourself to warm up as you go.
17:34
but really grounding yourself and centering yourself as you're
there. And you know, I actually have found that to be very
disturbing to many students over the years and it probably was to
me when I was younger in that we forget that we have a muscle
that's the biggest one. We have the heart. We forget what that is,
yeah, and so it reminds us of not only love and warmth and
connection, but death. Yeah, because it reminds you there's
mortality as well as life, and that's something that actors have to
come to over aging and over time, because it just is a maturity
thing. I think that when you feel your heart and you know, this is
my lifeline to living it's also my lifeline to dying as well, and
there's a beauty in that not to be morose, but there's a beauty in
understanding that you're vulnerable at all moments in life. You're
not in control of anything.
18:32 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I think the vulnerability, that's a great word. If I had a word to
put in my studio to help me to connect right and to get past the
words of it all and the sound of it all, I think it would be
empathy.
18:42 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Yeah, yeah, well, the mortality, I like to think is also connected
to humility. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, modesty and humility and
understanding. We're not that great, that big, that important that
we can't be gone at any moment, so what that provides for us is the
understanding of what others are going through, yeah, what others
are traveling through in that journey and that takes away from, oh,
the ego of it all right the ego, you know I have something I say a
few times in my classes about being a great e-learning narrator is
to be a great teacher right yes, and if ego rules your classroom,
get out of the classroom, right.
19:15 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
If ego rules your acting in reality, right, it's really not about
you, it's about serving your audience, your scene, and really doing
that justice Now. So we've got our sage, we've got our stretching
to get out of the box and to get back in the box and to get back in
the box.
19:35
What are some things that are not necessarily voiceover related
that we can do to expand right our creativeness and our creative
brain. And I like to say things that aren't necessarily like
voiceover related, and I'll start it off by saying aren't
necessarily like voiceover related and I'll start it off by saying
for me, if you can do it financially, travel Traveling to another
country can give you a wonderful perspective.
19:56
Anything that can get your creative juices flowing, that and a good
movie right. So I watched a couple of great movies on the plane
going out to Europe and then I was in Europe, experiencing
different people, different cultures, and just watching and
listening and talking and that allows me to grow spiritually,
mentally, and it helps me in my performance. I mean it helps me to
draw upon different experiences.
20:19 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Huge, huge, it's everything, or even this is what I've been doing
recently going to different areas and towns in my state that I've
never been to before or have never heard of, and just kind of
driving around looking at properties, looking at businesses,
looking at to expand my universe as to what surrounds me that I
have not paid attention to yet, and how does that make me feel? How
do I relate to that? I think that that's important in me being able
to bring it into my knowledge base, my mindset, and to that EQ.
Think that that's important in me being able to bring it into my
knowledge base, my mindset, and to that EQ, that emotional quotient
of understanding how others are living, how others are connected to
the universe, to the world, to the, whatever, wherever they live. I
think that's so important. I mean it doesn't have to be
expensive.
21:04 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I mean, you could go to the mall and people watch One of my most
favorite things I like to do when I went to New York was just hang
out, sit down and watch people, because you can learn so much by
absorbing the energy. It's not even about necessarily like, do you
have to go to a class to learn something? I mean you just be
absorbing the energy and for me, I like to be around positive
energy, but sometimes being around negative energy also tells you
like, oh okay, then that's also a learning experience.
21:29 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
It reminds you too, like how do you do that when you have to do
that? Because you and I are pretty positive energies and we try to
stay hopeful in life and smile, but how do you do that when you
have to do that? Maybe you're in a very somber or serious script,
maybe you're in a character that is deeply defeated or unhappy. How
do I reach that? Again, rasa boxes, how do I get into it? Very
quickly and deep dive it? By understanding how people live, how
they function, how they are in the world. That EQ, I think, is so—I
would even venture to say, even though we're super intellectual
beings, at least where we come from, culturally, eq is almost more
important because it is really taking into consideration the other,
the other person in a really important way, in a deep way, that
many people just don't do.
22:19
They don't think to do, that it's so about not you.
22:24 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I mean ultimately, yeah, ultimately it's not about you.
22:27 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Ultimately, it's not about you.
22:28 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
It's not, but it is about you serving others or serving a purpose
that can help you in the end. Right, I think it's not like you're
not going to benefit if it's not about you. The fact is that it can
benefit everyone, I think, if it becomes about the
person.
22:43 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Okay, so listen, I feel a quote coming up and I must allow it
because I'm working on Shakespeare right now in one of my classes.
As for a mirror held up to nature. So that is the human spirit by
Shakespeare held up to its audience. In other words, I'm the actor,
I'm the performer, I'm just mirroring you, the society, the need,
the value. I'm showing you your own humanity. Yeah,
absolutely.
23:12 - Intro (Announcement)
Or at least I'm attempting to.
23:13 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
I'm attempting to do that. So in the mimicry, if you will, in the
mirroring, there is a profound psychological effect with your
audience. It's not only like this business-like ability which
comes. That is important, but it's trust. It's a nugget of heart
value that lasts people a whole lifetime. That I know you do and I
strive for that. It's sure we want to make money, sure we want to
be successful, sure we want to do all that, but we want to make
long, meaningful relationships with our audiences so that we can
have that legacy.
23:47 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Absolutely, I mean I always was that person who had a positive
legacy. Absolutely I mean, right, I always was that person who had
a positive outlook on life. I mean, it was always like, you know,
you and I are kind of bubbly personalities and so I that kind of
has run my life, and when things happen that are not expected, like
that were not in my control, I had health issues, right that, where
all of a sudden I faced mortality, right, it amplified. It
amplified that it wasn't about me In amplified that it wasn't about
me. In reality it wasn't about me.
24:10
And what do I want to leave? What is my legacy? How do I want to be
remembered? Right, right, and it really is about like, well, when
you work 70, 80 hours a week, nobody like misses their work. When
they pass on, right, it's not like, oh damn, I should have worked
more. It's a funny thought though, Right, I should have worked
more, but really it's, I should have lived more. And I think that
really kind of planning and making time for that is important. So
my husband, the other day he you know now where he works, you can
take a mental health day he took a mental health day.
24:41
You know where he went? Disney. He went to Disney. And Disney is a
great refresher for creativity. I'll tell you that. There you go,
because you can just go and relax and have fun and allow yourself
to feel right, yes, and not necessarily beaten down by the stresses
of your work life.
24:58 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Just be present. Yeah, be present in the moment, having enjoyment,
having fun, having an honest enthusiasm right Right Now. Who said
this? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
25:11 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, I have to look up who that was, but it's so true it's funny
because everybody's like he went alone, he went by himself and I'm
like, yeah, I said look, Jerry looks at Disney, the way I look at
shopping, Like I can go shopping for hours. I mean hours, I mean
when.
25:23 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Jerry travels.
25:25 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I go like on a Sunday or a Saturday I'll go to the mall for like
four or five hours, six hours, believe it or not. Sure, have some
dinner. Sure, just walk around and observe. That's what I do. I
observe, that's a lot of what I do. I'm like, yeah, I shop too, but
I observe and I literally could do that all day long. So I'm like,
yeah, no, I let him do that.
25:44 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Okay, does that fall in? Just to circle back Now is that now
falling into the rejuvenation factor, the regenerating? Does that
fall into that stretch factor of like? What are you doing to
rejuvenate and regenerate that helps you stretch, helps you grow,
helps you?
26:02 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
learn all these things? How does shopping help Anne grow? Well, you
know, believe it or not, in a creative sense, right, we know that
I'm a fashion buff. Right, we know that I'm a fashion buff, right,
I'm not necessarily buying everything up in the stores, but I'm
curating, I'm looking, I'm combining, I'm doing that creative, like
whatever it is that creative assemblage in my head and building
outfits, whether I actually purchase anything or not. And then I'm
looking at people. I'm saying, oh, I like that, I like. Oh, look at
that, would look good with that. And so I'm exercising Believe it
or not, it's a creative exercise for me. And Jerry's like, oh,
you're out shopping. No, I'm creatively exercising.
26:38 - Intro (Announcement)
I'm stretching. This is going to help my business.
26:40 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
I'm stretching this is going to help my business, but it is
something like that, and you know I always say watching a great
movie, something that can move you, move you to an emotion, to
tears to happiness, to joy that is invigorating and that to me, is
like okay, I want to make someone feel like that or I want to have
an impact like that.
26:59
And how can I achieve that? How can I do that? Through my
day-to-day voice acting Right, cause I mean we all know cause,
we're all in it Right, but it's not to be minimalized.
27:08 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
I mean, it's not just, oh, it's just voice acting Hell no, I mean
that's something that someone says from the outside, not from the
inside right when you're inside of it. Everything's a
challenge.
27:18 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, and I'm like oh yeah, meryl Streep makes it look easy, right,
she's an amazing actress, right. But that did. It did not happen
overnight, and I think that, of course, there are people who have
gifts, but I'm not to say that those gifts don't require work, you
know, to develop and grow.
27:35 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
That's the actor challenge, though. When you see great actors, it
looks easy, it looks like it's natural, they're born doing it. They
don't need coaching, they don't need classes, they just do it. No,
you haven't seen the whole back end of that and they just do it.
No, you haven't seen the whole back end of that. And they continue
learning growing.
27:56
Yeah, johnny Depp is famous for going right into the culture and
the mindset in the background and living it for a couple months
before he shoots a film. You know what I mean. It's like hard work.
There's a lot of hard work involved in building authenticity. Yeah,
absolutely, Absolutely Right. Is there not like a bit of a what's
the word? Paradox in working so hard to building authenticity that
has a technical kind of fake structure to it and that is, you know,
being on a microphone, right, but you have to be able to do that.
You have to be able to do that and balance both.
28:25 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Yeah, oh, I love this conversation. This is such a great beginning
of the year conversation because it's so different from just write
your goals down, and, of course, I still think you should write
your goals down. But hey, before you do that, right, take stock,
sage out, get yourself out of the box, go through these steps and
then stretch right and then do something that will stretch your
creativity even further so that you can have the absolute best 2025
ever, ever.
28:52 - Lau Lapides (Guest)
Unbelievable. I feel like we should have for that segment. We
should have shaved our heads, been on a mountaintop in Tibet and
drinking really delicious tea, like. I feel like we missed that
part of it, but it was extraordinary, as always.
29:05 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
Next episode, Lau and I will be coming to you from, yeah, drinking
our tea. Oh my goodness, bosses.
29:12 - Intro (Announcement)
Delicious.
29:12 - Anne Ganguzza (Host)
It's been amazing. Thank you, Lau. As always, it's just a pleasure
and I look forward to our next episode together. Bosses, you too
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amazing year week, year day, all that good stuff, and we'll see you
next week. Bye.
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